UPDATE 6-19 715PM EST BUNNY: Upgrade Mansion Stuck: This is what we saw in our games…
Cookie Crumbles Part 8– (Completed for Task and Geronimo’s)
Have the Fatfather Fire Tommy Gun- 8hrs, Earns 25 Gurl Scout Cookie and 5 Fedora Mob Rep 1
Place Geronimo’s Place– Earned by clearing the Casino 3 time
Cookie Crumbles Part 8– (Pending)
Upgrade to the Fatfather’s Lavish Mansion
Game HAS to say it is Version 1.9.5 in the App Market (Android, Apple, etc).
Once that was all complete… the Mansion showed the Upgrade Icon… You tapped the Icon… it completed Part 8… new content progressed.
We are seeing many reports it just is not progressing for Players. There is not a reason why, but info was relayed to TinyCo. They are going to be trying to push a patch shortly to see if it will help trigger the Upgrade for those stuck, so stand by.
Force Close and if needed, restart your device too. Patch should be hitting your games.
UPDATE BUNNY 6/19: Bouncing by for some updates. Reported some issues to TinyCo already and here is the feedback…
Math Books: If you update from the Casino, your Math Book drops option goes, they are working on an alternative there.
HERBERT TASK, Take A Gross Bath, will now drop Math Books (Common).
Geronimo’s Palace: A patch was pushed to help fix this. If you got the 3 stars and did NOT get the Palace (for instance due to a crash), check your Inventory.
YOUR Name: Many will now notice you see YOUR name when in the Leaderboards. No worries. This is just to help those know they are looking at themselves. Everyone else will still only see nicknames.
Mansion Won’t Upgrade: As we noted below, to move on… you MUST update your App in the App Market. So make sure you are on 1.9.5, if not go to your App Market and Update.
Update: There was an issue with Cookie Crumbles questline shifting on many people. Or having players do Part 7 over again. This has been fixed and should be working properly. However, TinyCo can’t re-complete it for players in mass. So if you had the issue please write into TinyCo ASAP and let them know..
In Addition…Cookie Crumbles Pt. 7 has now changed. It looks like you no longer need Cleveland Jr. to complete it (i.e. to upgrade to Week 3). The task is now for Bonnie instead of Cleveland Jr.
Hello There Clammers!
Well…week 3 is upon us (finally!) so hurry into your Tiny Quahogs and load it up! It’s time to upgrade the Fatfather’s Compound and see what’s in store for us this week….
As always we’ll be back with more details as soon as we go through them…
For now know that you should have completed Cookie Crumbles Pt. 8 in order to upgrade the Mansion (At least that’s how it should work, if you haven’t completed it and can still upgrade please let us know..)
You will need to go to your mansion and upgrade before you see anything else appear…
Back with more in a bit… Details below
For those that are wondering….you will lose the Casino Raids and it will be replaced by something else once you upgrade.
Note: IF You’re on Android you need to check your Play Store for the latest update. Once you update the week 3 content should be there.
As always let’s first talk about the new stuff in the store…
Buildings
Super Cowboy USA Cleaners- 350
, 12hr Build. Earns 10 , 2 
/ 8hrs
Fort Nox- 2,500 . This is a more complicated building, as it’s not your typical Building. BUT we will cover this more below. However, this is where you can get Spray Bottles for Mr. Washee Washee.
Mob Wife Beauty Parlor- 250 , 6hr Build. Earns 15 , 3 /12hrs
Burlesque Vanity Set- 150 Clams, Instant Build. Earns 8, 2 /8hrs. Always drops Sequined High Heel for Evil Show girls
Japan Arcade- 125 Clams, Instant Build. Earns 5 , 1 /4hrs. Always drops one of the items needed for Mr. Washee Washee
The Following Buildings WILL NOT Unlock Until you’ve Completed Moment of Zen Pt. 1 (Raid Questline)
Permanent Mistakes Tattoo Shop- 550 , 8hr Build. Earns 8, 2 /6hrs. Always drops Sequined High Heel for Evil Show girls
Kimono Shop- 500 , 10hr Build. Earns 8, 2/6hrs. Always drops Sequined High Heel for Evil Show girls
Decorations
Cherry Blossom Tree- 225
Giant Golden Paper Crane- 5,000
Bamboo Bunch- 50
Lotus Blossom on Steroids- 225
New Character
Mr. Washee Washee, found in the Super Cowboy USA Cleaners Building. As usual to unlock him you’ll need to collect lots of STUFF. Here’s what you’ll need:
5,000 Gurl Scout Cookies
4 Spray Bottles (Always): Get From- Fort Nox OR Japan Arcade (Right now the game is showing that as the only option, TinyCo is working on correcting this on the Spray Bottle icon next to Mr. Washee Washee)
6 Ang Lee Photos (Extra Rare): Get From- Make Lois Teach Piano; Make Chris Fat Kid Hula Hoop; Make Herbert Buy Candy for Kids; Get From the Suited Sumo Wrestler Obstacle OR Get From Japan Arcade
15 Dirty Shirt (Common): Get From- Clearing Gurl Scout OR Get from Japan Arcade
Tape of Mr. Sulu Show (Rare): Get From- Clearing Cookie Courier OR Get from Japan Arcade
New Cookie Carrier to “Take Down”
Similar to Cookie Trucks and Gurl Scouts we now have a new cookie carrier to take down….
Cookie Couriers….this guys are on bikes and you’ll need 3 Evil Showgirls to Take them down (details on showgirls below)
Evil Showgirls (the new “Goon”)
This week Evil Showgirls we added to The Don’s Nightclub. Much like Luchadors you’ll need to collect an item before you can create the Showgirls.
To create the Evil Showgirls you’ll need Sequined High Heels. 1 High Heel is required to create each Showgirls.
How do you earn Sequined High Heels? Here’s the breakdown:
-Make Bonnie Buy Gaudy Jewelry (Requires Kumono Shop, 6hrs)
-Make Cleveland Jr Go Shopping (6hrs
-Make Diabeto Go Shopping (6hrs)
-Get from Kimono Shop
-Get from Permanent Mistakes Tattoo Shop
-Get from Burlesque Vanity Set
Once hired they take 45 Minutes to create (or 6 clams to rush)
You’ll need Evil Showgirls for…
-Clearing Cookie Couriers (3 Showgirls to take one down)
-Clearing Obstacles at the Takanawa Family Estate
-Taking down Fort Nox
Takanawa Family Estate
This is the new raid for week 3. This will replace Cleveland’s Casino.
Much like previous raids you’ll need to defeat it three times to start to “optional raids”. Beating it 3 times will be required to complete the questline, and your reward for defeating it 3 times is The Asian as you can see above.
We’ll break this all down in a more detailed post later…
Fort Nox
You’ll find Fort Nox in your store. It’ll cost you 2,500 Cookies to place in your Quahog. It is an instant build.
Once in your Quahog you’ll notice a ! over it. That’s because there are actions you can do at Fort Nox to earn you more Cookies, Mob Rep and Spray Bottles for Mr. Washee Washee.
Basically you have to attack and destroy Fort Nox to earn rewards.
You’ll need to hire the various Goons Available to defeat Fort Nox and earn the rewards.
As you can see from the image above the various goons all do different damage. For the first defeat you’ll need 125 points to take it down. So use combos of the various Goons to hit 125 Points to destroy Fort Nox.
We’ll break it all down in another post, but for now that’s just the basics of it.
And that my friends completes the details for Week 3 of the Mob Event!
What do you think of the week 3 content? Thoughts on the Showgirls being added? How about the new raids? What’s your thoughts on Fort Nox? Sound off in the comments below, you know we love hearing from you!
Family Guy Addicts 
My game will not update at all! It keeps saying error 963 or something. I can’t contact tiny co in app. Bc I can’t update :(( Note 4
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For sone reason it’s not allowing me to upgrade I have the quest to upgrade the mansion but all of a sudden I need to do cookie crumble no.7 again and I’m not bothered waiting another 6 hours
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See top of post please.
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I’m glad I saw this and went back to find the task for bonnie so i could complete part 7 six hours from now. I only have 9 tubas right now so no cleveland jr who i really don’t want anyway. The next phase sounds way too complicated and buggy. Honestly at this point I just want the skins for lois and bonnie and I could care less about the rest of it. Since my rep is dropping no matter what I do I don’t even care about the leaderboard prizes anymore and just want this event to end. Way to go Tinyco.
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How disappointed am I that Lois doesn’t unlock for her costume until next week? I wish they would come up with an expansion for making more goons at once. But honestly if brian and bonnie’s skins ends up being 200 clam purchases I think I’ll be sitting out the rest of the event and becoming purely freemium. Thanks for getting us the info, bunny.
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Decorations dropping crazy amounts of hats again…
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So, so far no changes for tubas and the gurl scouts now have a common drop of dirty shirts for the new character. Seriously TinyCo?? A task where there is already a problem with it and now it is being required to drop a new item?? Looks like it will be a long week. And I know, the new stuff just got started but after last week, what makes anyone think this week will be any better?
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Every time I log in cookie prt 7 reloads. Not sure if this a widespread bug but dont clear out their tasks (louis and bonnie) till your sure the new questline been triggered.
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See top of post.
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I’ve had about enough of this event. I’ve been trying to hold off on getting Gurl Scouts because of the tuba thing and now that Cleveland Jr. isn’t required I’m only on Cookie Crumbles 5 after focusing on the casino raids and it feels like it will take forever to get caught back up. Ugh.
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I guess the new buildings don’t show until after you complete the updated cookie quest and update the mansion? I had to send Lois and Bonnie back out, so I haven’t updated my mansion yet and the only new building I see so far is Fort Knox.
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I would love to know what kind of stunt tinyco is playing on us. No1 175,000 rep. No2 71,000 rep. WTD??that means the no 1 player has gotten an average of 13,000 rep per day. How is that possible without being on 24 hrs a day and spending thousands upon thousands of real life dollars.
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All I will say is let TinyCo do their thing. They are watching. 🙂
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Was about to post the exact same thing…
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I still think it’s possible if you spend clams to speed up everything to zero time. I think that wouldn’t take too long, look how fast the Addicts in Chief get info on the game using clams. But someone with cash to spare could hire people … 🙂 Why, I have no idea! I suppose it’s a hobby. Like stamp collecting.
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Well at the rate tubas are dropping for me (I have sent luchadors every two hours to kill those lousy gurl scouts) I will be on phase 2 for 12 more days. I am at 8 (that 1 per day). Now uncommon seems to be a higher rate than this. The problem is this has bottlenecked my game (as I need goons and luchadors for other quests). I have messaged and got the “drops are dropping as we intended” form letter reply.
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On to a slight tangent… I can’t fathom how I’m dropping on the leaderboard every day, it seems every day or so I’m down another 1000 spots. Was near 5K, then 7, then8, now I’m in 9000th! And I’m doing whatever I can, playing almost hourly, focusing on the casinos as they give more mob rep, etc. Are that many people buying and spending clams that I’m dropping that far that fast? Or am I not playing effectively?
At this rate I doubt I’ll be anywhere close to top 10K to get Don Corleone.
Now here’s the part relevant to this post: If I choose not to upgrade my mansion yet, can I continue with Casino runs? Looks like the mob rep payout total is much higher per Luchador. (Though maybe everyone in the top 10K are reading this site and will take this advice, putting me farther behind…)
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Up to you and how you play 😉
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Same happened me, I was around 6500 every day for a week, in the last couple days I dropped to 11000.
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That’s the problem with this competitive leaderboard idea. You have no control over what other people are doing, so it doesn’t matter really how carefully you play. If they shell out the clams 🙂 then they can outrun you easily. So it’s pointless to even worry about it. You can focus on the individual prizes and ignore the leaderboard to maintain your sanity and avoid depression. It just isn’t worth the fluctuating misery. I’m trying to not even check my standing any more since there is nothing I can do about it. I wouldn’t waste clams on it either.
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Applied the new Android update and had my fingers crossed we’d finally get some tuba help, but no dice so far. Guess my one tuba and I will follow people around ala Stewie because that’s how many I’ve gotten in 3 days. 😦
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100,000 mob rep in less than 6 hours? Seriously, TinyCo needs to check the number one ranked player out.
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Let them police it. I don’t know why people panic so much over it. Just play. There are ways to boost it, but it will cost you.
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Guys, there are now 1.1 million players in this game. The fact that there is only one outlier tells me that TC is policing and removed those playing mods. There is just this one person who has crazy money to spend on this game.
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My game is stil crashing (ios and I did the upgrade from App Store)
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Report it if the basics of troubleshooting do not help.
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I’ll try that. Thanks.
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I could upgrade my mansion without finishing cookie crumble 8.
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FYI … 11:25pm EST I have downloaded an update from the Play store but nothing appears different. Now I have not completed the Cookie Crumbles (on account of having only 4/20 tubas) but the mansion still says “coming soon” as opposed to a reference to finishing the story or whatever. And there was no new-content-splash-page. Maybe the update simply hasn’t gone out to Play store yet?
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It looks like it Cookie Crumbles Pt. 7 was changed so you no longer need Cleveland Jr. Reread the update at the very top of this post
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🙂 nothing like posting at the same time. Officially, 11:30pm for both so I can legitimately say I saw your post after posting mine. 😛
Good job on the speedy info updates as usual, Addicts.
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😉
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Wait, wait, HOLD THE PHONE!!! I have been Upgraded to Cookie Crumbles Pt 7 (as opposed to those below who were regressed to it) despite not having the tubas.
So it looks like they are righting the wrong by making Cleveland Jr a side task and not required to advance in the story. !! Thanks for that! I sure do hope I can still get 20 tubas by July 6 😉
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I’ve done the update in IOS, done a hard reboot, but still no upgrading of the mansion. 😦
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You need to complete Cookie Crumbles…have you finished that full questline?
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I have not, Still working on Cleveland Jr. But I had that mission with the upgrade plan, but I guess that has no impact?
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Correction. Bonnie and Lois are working on it.
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That’s the one I was missing. Just finished it and was able to upgrade. Thanks Alissa!!!
Always so helpful 🙂
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I can’t upgrade my mansion… Won’t let me even if I’ve completed all the quests and downloaded the update.
Any Suggestions?
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What tasks are in your task bar?
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Was just about finished with cookie crumbles part 7 and they changed the quest now have to do lois’s task again. Sent them an ingame message but will be done before i hear back.
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Cleveland Jr Task was changed a Bonniey task
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Sorry that happened to a few of you.
I was on pt 8 upgrade mansion and it worked fine.
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It keeps giving me the message to do cookie crumbles7 but I finished that a long time ago. And I can’t upgrade my mansion.
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See top of post.
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WelL ain’t that a b!tch…my game just now gave me cookie crumbles part 7….part 6 was done 4 days ago 😦
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Cookie Crumbles Part 7 restarted for me as well, but the 2nd task to complete it changed to a Bonnie task (Have Bonnie Look After Cleveland Jr.) instead of a Cleveland Jr. task (Have Cleveland Jr. Moo When Scared).
So now I will be able to upgrade the mansion much quicker than before since I only have 7/20 tubas (annoying) and Cookie Crumbles Part 7 has to be finished before the mansion will unlock.
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It looks like it was changed so that you don’t need Cleveland Jr. to move onto Week 3
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No complaints from me on that decision
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I meant Cookie Crumbles Part 7 and Part 8 need to be complete to unlock the mansion but Part 7 was the one holding me back since I don’t have Cleveland Jr. yet.
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Your statement about needing to have completed Cookies Crumble is correct and TinyCo changed the task from a Cleveland Jr task to a Bonnie task. I was stuck at that point and TinyCo wiped away my progress on the Lois task and I need to do both and then the final part (8). Wish TinyCo had admitted it erred sooner so at least we could have completed these tasks and had a whole week for the new material instead of losing a day playing catch up.
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I have already sent TinyCo an ingame message. I was on Cookie Crumbles part 8 and had completed Peter’s 8 hour task, placed Geronimo’s Place a long time ago, and was only waiting to upgrade the Mansion. But after the update – it reset and launched Part 7 and now I am having to spend 6 hours redoing the task for Lois and they changed the original task from Cleveland Jr to Bonnie ( I guess for people who didn’t have Cleveland Jr – but I did and already completed part 7 with him.) Now I am not ready to update and have to redo Part 7 again… So they set me back at least 8 hours (if I have to redo Peter’s task in part 8…
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And NO. The mansion hasn’t upgraded. And YES, I updated from the playstore. Enough with this garbage.
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Message them. (See top of post)
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Impressive. After downloading the update, nothing has updated, yet, I’ve been regressed to the cookie crumbles part 7…. that I completed days ago. Kudos, Tiny Co.! You’ve done it yet again!!! At least they didn’t steal the meager tubas they let me have over the past WEEK.
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This is doing the same to me. Then I started back on part 7, next time I go in, it’s making me do it again.
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It looks like it Cookie Crumbles Pt. 7 was changed so you no longer need Cleveland Jr. Reread the update at the very top of this post
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Noticed that Cookie Crumbles 7 was changed from Lois: “Find Cleveland” and Jr: “Moo When Scared” to Lois: “Find Cleveland” and Bonnie: “Look after Cleveland Jr.” I know this because it made me restart the request (ie: send Lois out again). Guess they realized that maybe it wasn’t exactly their best idea ever to tie the ability to advance to the next mansion to a character that is nearly impossible for Freemium players to have by now.
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So, I have been stuck on Cookie Crumbles pt 7 because I needed Cleveland Jr (“have him moo” action) – when I started my game just now I realized they are making me redo part 7, but they removed the Cleveland Jr action with Bonnie: Look after Cleveland Jr. So this means I can actually move on because there is no hope for tubas!
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I finished cookie crumbles but it reset on me and now I’m back to part 7 😦
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I’m realizing everyone is probably having this issue… Oops. Haha
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Try to complete it, if it won’t message them please. (See top of post)
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Thanks TinyCo for changing part 7 of Cookie Crumbles. I already had Peter firing his Tommy Gun for part 8, Lois had finished her quest for part 7 so the only thing I had to do to be ready to start stage three was rush the 6 hour Jr task. Now part 7 must be done all over again (same Lois task and a 6 hour for Bonnie) and at this juncture who knows if part 8 is even the same.
I understand this was probably done because most players don’t have jr, but for those of us that just got him and planned ahead, they just put us at least six hours behind. And they wonder why they are swamped with support issues…
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At the horrible, inconsistent rate that the horns are dropping for Cleveland Jr makes the transition into week 3 completely ridiculous. I’m getting them less than 1/2 the time and for the amount it takes – this a last straw for me. I was going to be done with this game after Star Trek but figured I’d give it one more event be I love mafia stuff. However this kills it for me. I’m done. It’s just not fun – and if a dumb I phone game is more stress than fun then it’s time to delete. The ROI spending money on it isn’t worth it either
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You do NOT need Jr to progress. They changed it. See top of the post.
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Every time I login to the game part 7 of cookie crumbles pops up. I only have 5 tubas so I can’t do the Cleveland Jr part of the quest. I had previously done Lois’ part. The last 5 gurl scouts dropped zero tubas. I guess this is where the event ends for me…
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Cleveland is NOT there. They changed it. See top of post. Make sure your on the Updated App Market 1.9.5 patch
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Yeah, I missed that. I had read that task so many times trying to clear my tasks that I only saw that Lois’ wasn’t complete again. And again. And again, lol. I wound up using my saved up clams to speed their tasks so it would stop popping up. (Just an fyi, I commented almost as soon as you posted this thread. Because yes, I stalk this page for advice and info and the latest updates 😉 So it wasn’t there that it was a glitch yet. Thank you for all of the time you take to keep this site running!)
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I haven’t seen the update on Play, but TinyCo changed Cookie Crumbs Pt. 7 to help players, who haven’t unlocked Cleveland Jr.
Now its:
Have Lois Find Cleveland – 6hr
Have Bonnie Look After Cleveland Jr. – 6hr
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Crumbs = Crumbles
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So not only do you have to complete part 8 of Cookie Crumbles but you have to unlock Cleveland Jr first. Well I don’t know about everyone else but I only have 8 of 20 tubas so I’m pretty far away from unlocking him. I was wondering why I couldn’t upgrade yet. And the more annoying thing that just happened was the game just started up Cookie Crumbles Pt 8 again and I now have to make Lois find Cleveland again even though I already finished that task. So it had a check mark and now it doesn’t. Grrrr….
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Incorrect. They changed it. See top of post.
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It is all well and nice but as expected, it requires Cleveland Jr. Still need 20 tubas and they still show as uncommon. Still need 2 luchadores to clear gurl scout. Luchadores still take an hour to make. Drop rates change? Don’t know, don’t care as at this point I am so far behind increasing it from never to almost never really doesn’t help. Whoop-dee-doo Diabeto mask task is now 4 hours. Earning masks wasn’t the problem. Tiny Co can go **** themselves.
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And thanks to the latest update, the game will not close when I quit. No matter how long I wait, when I try to get back in, it’s as if I never closed it. Only way to exit is to force close the game. Happens on both android devices.
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Actually… you do NOT need Jr to progress to the Upgrade. See top of post.
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They changed the quest line so those without Cleveland Jr can move on 🙂
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After installing the update, the game went back one step in the Cookie Crumbles quest line. Earlier today, I was waiting to unlock Cleveland Jr. so he could Moo when Scared. After the update, my quest log went back to pt. 7 (where Bonnie has to look after Cleveland Jr. and Lois has to find Cleveland). Not that big a deal. I’ll just have them do those tasks overnight. But I was wondering if this had happened to anyone else?
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Yes. See top of post. 🙂
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I just went into my game and the cookie crumbles part 7 has changed! We no longer need Cleveland Jr. to complete it. Now the two tasks are “Have Lois Find Cleveland” and Have Bonnie look after Cleveland Jr.” both of which you can do right away. We still need the tubas to unlock Cleveland Jr. but he is no longer part of the main quest line!
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I should have added that both tasks take 6 hours to complete.
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Hey Ladies, My cookie crumbles part 7 task for Cleveland Jr changed to Have Bonnie Look After Cleveland Jr. And I have to repeat Have Lois Find Cleveland, if you didn’t see this in your game just letting you know. Thanks Ladies.
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I had the quest to uppdate the mansion, have had it for several days. Now it has changed to part 7 on Cookie Crumbles… What the the?!
Anyway, slow dropping tubas will most likely put the hatch on this event from me. First I have ever skipped, but so tired of those damn tubas (and cant earn hats at casino because I need wrestlers to destroy the cookie girls). Seems like a slow, nofun event stopper for me. Was hopping for something more this uppdate, but no.. I lost the quest at part 8.
Now thats off my chest… Good hat hunting everyone! 😀
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If you see on part 7… now only Lois and Bonnie needed. No more Jr needed.
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You have to have gotten all the tubas to upgrade? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
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No. They changed it. You need Bonnie and Lois now for part 7
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I saw the update earlier but b4 I downloaded it, I said to myself, no, wait check FGA first. 🙂 Decided to finish this last optional raid ’cause you guys did not say our little world was about to end this very minute. 😉 Thanks ladies.
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I was on cookie crumbles part 7 waiting for Cleveland Jr’s moo task and I just got on the game and now it’s a totally new task! Did this happen to anyone else? I have to have Lois find Cleveland and Bonnie look after Cleveland Jr
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Yes. So Players stuck with the Tuba issue do NOT need Jr to progress.
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How are we supposed to complete cookie crumbles part 7 when we need Cleveland Jr to do so and we never get the tubas to get him?… Guess I won’t be upgrading the mansion for a really long time…
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Wrong. It’s been changed. You only need Lois and Bonnie now.
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I just checked and it was changed cool, some said tuba drops have increased but still not getting them
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They changed “how the cookie crumbles part 7. Now you need Bonnie and Lois. I am pretty sure it was Peter and Cleveland Jr to complete it.
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I was wrong. It was Lois for one part, but the second part was changed from Cleveland Jr to Bonnie
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Cookie crumbles part 7 has been changed from Have Lois find Cleveland and Have Cleveland Jr moo when scared” to “Have Lois find Cleveland and Have Bonnie look after Cleveland Jr.”
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Yup
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I was less than 2 hours away from completing make Cleveland jr moo for cookie crumbles pt 7 when Peter had a ! Over him. When I clicked it, it restarted and deleted all progress. It also changed the task needed. Anyone else have this issue?
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They changed it so Players having issues with the Tuba drops would NOT need Jr to progress to new content.
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I completed cookie crumbles part 7 a few days ago, and now it is making me do it again. 😦
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Message them right away from your game please.
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Finally with the patch I’m getting tubas its a bloody miracle. Sent out all luchadors got 3 tubas out of 4 tries thats how uncommon should work. Thank you ladies so much for putting up with our whining.
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This is a joke, right? we can’t continue until we get Cleveland Jr…. and none of us have enough tubas unless we spend clams….
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Incorrect. They changed it so you do NOT need Cleveland Jr. Bonnie does the task now.
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Nevertheless, these are the fixes that shouldn’t be necessary when the developers actually thought everything through before releasing it.
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It seems like they changed cookie crumbles pt 7. Before you needed to have Cleveland Jr. Moo when scared. Now they changed it be tasks for Lois (I think Lois always had a task) and Bonnie. Guess they realized with the tuba drop rate most people wouldnt get cleveland jr for a while
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