Hey there Kibbles & Bits!
The second week of content for our Dog Multiverse Event is now live in our games. We got more fleas, collars, and howling galore!
DOG MULTIVERSE EVENT WILL END NOVEMBER 24th @3PM PACIFIC
Hang in there with me while I compile all the fun new details.
First up, in order to start Week 2 of Dog Multiverse you will need to be finished with the Questline from Week 1. For My Dogs Pt. 10.
BUILDINGS
Human Pound- 
4,000, 8hrs Build Time, $60 & 40xp every 12hrs, Drops 1 
Dawg Coin
James Woods Hydrant School- 1500, 12hrs Build Time, $60 & 40xp every 12hrs, Drops 1 Dawg Coin
Groomer Has It- 6 Dawg Coins, 4hr Build Time, $30 & 20xp every 4hrs, Chance 1 
Drool Wipes
DECORATIONS
Free Kids- 300
CHARACTERS
Bulldog Meg: In order to get her into the game, you will first have to build the James Woods Hydrant School. Once built you can start collecting her Materials.
Requires
20 Dog Food (Common): Clear Holly the Human OR New Brian Write Original Songs OR Jack Play with Chris OR Finn Baby Diaper Scoot OR Jasper Do a Cheer OR Death’s Dog Do the Scoot OR Brian Sneak a Drink OR Vinny Have a Secret Meeting
10 Spay/Neuter Pamphlets (Uncommon): Clear Henry the Human
4 Leashes (Extra Rare): Clear Henry the Human
6 Drool Wipes (Rare): Mort Swallow Jewels OR Wolfdog Quagmire Howl at the Moon OR Groomer Has It
4 Poop Bags (Common):Herbert Freeze Popsicles OR Lois Buy Groceries OR Sheepdog Chris Chew on Large Bone
K-9 Joe: In order to get him into the game, you first will have to build the Human Pound. Once built you can start collecting his Materials
Requires
75 Dog Food (Common): Clear Holly the Human OR New Brian Write Original Songs OR Jack Play with Chris OR Finn Baby Diaper Scoot OR Jasper Do a Cheer OR Death’s Dog Do the Scoot OR Brian Sneak a Drink OR Vinny Have a Secret Meeting
7 Dog Whistles (Common): Wolfdog Quagmire Scratch an Itch OR Joe Play Mace Tag
4 Dog Sweaters (Uncommon): Bulldog Meg Scratch Fleas
3 Heartworm Pills (Rare): Jerome Be a Superior Athlete OR Sheepdog Chris Chase Cats OR Human Brian Be Puppy Stewie’s Companion OR Dog Mart SuperStore
13 Veterinarian Bills (Common): Bonnie Twerk It OR Peter Be Financially Responsible
DOGGIE BUSINESS MYSTERY BOX
We have another Rupert Mystery Box in our games now. So what goodies can you get for 75 
Clams.
Human Walker (Decoration)– Can repeat, animated
Human Control Truck (Moving Decoration)– Can repeat
Dog PeterCopter (Decoration)– Can repeat, animated
Rocket Dog (Decoration)– Can repeat(This was meant for Copter above) animated
Human Spay & Neuter Clinic (Building)– Earns $60 & 40xp every 12hrs, Chance 1 Per TinyCo, this was not intended to drop Sweaters.
Dog Sweater
Human Adoption Center (Building)- Can repeat, Earns $40 & 25xp every 6hrs, Chance 1 Drool Wipe
Jasper (Character)
Bitch Brian (Character)- (If he comes with his Clone Machine, the payout is $60 & 40xp every 12hrs)
Jack (Character)
3 Dawg Coins
50 Clams
250 Clams
**Currency and Materials can repeat too.
FYI, reported some of you do not see Bitch Brian or state you had him and do not now. This did not impact me at all. My Bitch Brian and his Machine were still in my Inventory Storage with Bitch Stewie and his Machine too. If you believe you completely earned all his Materials and unlocked him from the earlier Event release, and should have him in your game, and he is not, reach out to TinyCo for further investigation.
UPDATE 11/21: Per TinyCo, if you did indeed win Bitch Brian previously and he somehow mysteriously disappeared with this Event, try storing and then replacing Bitch Brian’s Clone Machine and the one that you won previously should return. If not, message them right away.
For those of you that state Jack disappeared too, you need to message them from your game as they are not seeing any reports of this and need to check your game for verification on this.
HUMANS
Henry the Human: Will now randomly drop a Leash OR Spay/Neuter Pamphlet OR Nothing at all OR $3 Coin
Holly the Human: Will still randomly drop Dog Food OR Nothing at all OR $3 Coin
QUICK QUESTLINES
Doggone It!
Pt. 1 –Lois starts-Lois Embarrass Meg (4hrs) & Peter Fart on Meg (8hrs)
Pt. 2- Peter Starts-Build James Woods Hydrant High School & Build the Human Pound
Pt. 3- Quagmire Starts- Clear 12 Holly the Humans & Clear 6 Henry the Humans & Quagmire Update Dating Profile (20hrs)
After Doggone It! Pt. 2
What a B#tch!
Pt. 1- Peter starts- Unlock Bulldog Meg
There you have it. Sweet and simple and more kind of laid back play for Week 2 so far.
How are you getting along? How far on the Main Questline are you? Liking the New Characters so far? Suggestions to other Players? Let us know.
~Bunny
Family Guy Addicts 
Did poodle stewie, dog Peter and dog Lois ever come out?
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Since the event is ending today,what about the the characters that didn’t get added, like dog stewie and lois? they have shadows but no characters yet.
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So do we want to hold on to extra dog coins for when this event continues? Or should I spend them on decos? I like the dogwood trees and would get more but I want to save the coins if I can use them later.
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When finish this event in Spain, Europe? I need to know the exact hour, please.
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Got Meg and Joe just now. I’m a freemium player and spent a total of 5 clams to speed things up. As a word of advice to other freemium players (in case people didn’t already know), the best time to speed up a task is when the task has only 45 minutes left…its only 1 clam and in my experience, helps up the chances for item drop. Plus if the speed up didn’t help you get the item, quickly put your phone to airplane mode to disconnect from internet and then quit the game. When you come back in, you’ll see that you didnt lose your clam (sorry I’m cheap but as a freemium player, clams are precious). You can then just wait til the task ends…more likely than not, it won’t drop the item still because its programmed that way. But I’m convinced using clams to speed it up does help the drop rate…so just use 1 clam 😉 this goes for everything, not just this event. Hopefully this is a helpful tip for some.
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That’s great for you, but my experience has been the very opposite. Everytime so far I’ve used clams to speed things up they haven’t dropped anything. I actually thought it was a built-in thing so you can’t finish events faster with clams. But good to know I’ve just been very unlucky. I guess it makes more sense what you said $$$$$$. As another freemium player I don’t want to try it any time soon though 😉
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Is there a walk through for k9 Joe and bulldog Meg? I thought I saw one but now I can’t find it.
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I had the beginnings of them on the Week 2 Main walkthrough… the completed ones will be up in the AM.
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Well, very close to unlocking K-9 Joe. I still need 2 whistles and 3 sweaters for him. I should have him unlocked late Sunday but no later then late Monday. The mystery box was good to me I only had the dog copter and the human dog walker repeat twice everything else I got one of except the clams and the Dawg coins which I didn’t get and I am fine with that. I already had Jasper, Jack and Bitch Brian from their respective events so I didn’t need to worry about them. I really can’t wait for them to continue this dog event after the holidays which I can assume they will continue it then. Btw Bunny do we know if the character questlines will be continued after the event or will they go also?
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If not event linked or event items needed… then they’ll continue after.
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I’m confused, facespace shows the whole dog multiverse griffins yet clearly dog Peter Lois and stewie haven’t become available yet. Will the event be extended, or continued at another time or something?
Honestly I think the multiverse event would have been better as a main event rather than a minor event, and should have used characters from all the multiverse worlds, like the disney animation world, or the Japanese world. Oh the pixelated world would have been fun. They should do an episode where they return to the multiverse!
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That doesn’t explain what happens regarding dog Peter, Lois and Poodle Stewie. At the speed things drop in this, and other quests, I’ll be lucky to get Bulldog Meg and Watchdog Joe by Tuesday. I guess TinyCo is hoping were all suckers and will dump more cash into buying clams. Not happening anymore with me.
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This doesn’t???
“MORE MULTIVERSE COMING?
Per TinyCo, there are an infinite number of Multiverse in the Family Guy World. The Dog Multiverse is just one of many. It will be revisited at a future time, but do expect to see new adventure full of People-pups, so collect all the furry friends you can now because you never know what will happen when we go back.”
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I’m confused, facespace shows all the dog multiverse griffins, yet clearly dog stewie Lois and Peter are not yet available. Why is this?
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See the first post when event went live as well as FAQ on Multiverse
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So I guess since the event is ending soon we won’t have a chance to get poodle stewie or the Lois and Peter dog versions?
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Like I’ve posted many many times now… see the first post when event went live as well as FAQ on “More Multiverse “
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Best glitch ever happened to me. I only had 150 clams, but I really wanted Bitch Brian,so I went for it. After two tries it still said I had 150 clams, and I thought it was just a visual glitch, but I tried again anyway, just for the heck of it. It worked! So I decided I’d just do it until I got Brian. 17 human walkers, multiple supplies, 8 human adoption centers, 15 dog-copters, 1 dog rocket, 1 human spay center, and 15 human control trucks later, I got him. So it took more than 60 times to get Bitch brian, but that’s not my point, just a warning for those who will actually spend clams. My point is, should I report this. I know I probably should, but on the other hand I didn’t try to do anything wrong so maybe I shouldn’t. So….what to do?
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Sounds like a happy glitch to me. Lol
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I unlocked Bulldog Meg, and I am 0 for 4 on getting her to drop dog sweaters for joe. Grrr.
Ps you know I have to post that so that they will start to drop.
I also tried to get bb again
1 building
1 dog copter
2 human walkers
1 dog coins
I quit on him, and i will not participate in any more mystert boxes that use clams that have so many repeating decos.
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How long is Bulldog Megs, scratch fleas? I want to mentally calculate if it’s even possible to get her?
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4hrs
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It won’t let me paste pictures here but I wanted to warn everyone to NOT purchase this mystery box with the hope of getting Bitch Brian. I spent 18,000 clams — no joke 240 boxes not including 50 clam prize reimbursement — and all I get is the generic response from their customer service. I’m a LONG time customer with this game and I usually don’t miss any characters but this is obviously not working properly unless they have the chance to obtain Bitch Brian at less than half a percent, which would even be worse. So now I’m stuck with hundreds of dogcopters, dogs walking people, human control vans, etc. and no Bitch Brian after $500 USD worth of clams. I created an account just to make this post to save people grief. Do not waste your money on this pack in hopes of Bitch Brian.
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This is why I tell players beware of ANY Mystery Box. You are essentially at a casino sitting at a slot machine. Each pull is a “chance” at getting the item you want. That item may hit in 2 pulls or 200… but the choice is yours to keep feeding the machine money or walk away. Sorry you invested so much on a gamble, but in the future be very very careful of the Mystery Boxes. Especially those with a lot of “repeat” items in them. That is also why I made sure I noted in my post that those items repeated.
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I knew better but wasted 150 clams anyway and got two control vans for my efforts.
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So, any idea if we are going to re-visit the dog multiverse? I’ve got other dog characters in facespace that it doesn’t seem we are able to get.
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Do me a favor and look at the note on the first Dog Multiverse post about more Multiverse. 😉
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Ruperts mystery chest offers great prizes and I spent over 20 dollars on clams getting prizes. I noticed you gave a detailed explaination that some prizes can be duplicated. But why doesn’t tiny co put that in a disclosure by ruperts chest ? I received several 50 clams and dog walkers but no buildings or characters. That’s why I come to your website for answers but I’m mad at myself for not going to ur site prior to spending all this money on clams and getting shafted. Why advertise the front page two characters and 250 clams and stiff the devoted clam buyers in not even getting any of the prizes. I read another addict spent 3k on clams and still wasn’t able to get b Brian. I think everyone one of us who got shafted with ruperts prize box should complain to tiny co. I complained to them last night and demanded my clams back for the items that were duplicated because it never stated on the game that prizes could be dropped numerous times. I have yet to get a response but if they say no, I will call apple support and get my refund that way. I know I work hard for my money and when I spend money on clams it is because I expect to get treated fair. Once again Bunny your posts have all been very helpful. I appreciate them
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They did list it in the in game FAQ.
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Did Tinyco change the item drop for the Human Spay Neuter Clinic? Because mine does not even say it or has dropped the green sweaters. It tells me that only Bulldog Meg drops them and nothing else.
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Do you have K-9 Joe in your game? Do you have the Clinic in your game? Many times you will not see items listed if they do not exist in your game or the Character that needs them is not yet active in your game.
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I have both, and it does not drop them nor say it drops them. Also, rocket dog doesn’t repeat. Not in the list of prizes I can get anymore, and I only got one.
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Rocket Dog was my typing… it was supposed to go on the Copter and transposed to Rocket. I corrected it.
These are the Screenshots from my game on both Mystery Box Prizes notating their payouts. I have k-9 Joe and Meg now so I can’t check further. I will also write to TinyCo on it.
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Is anyone else’s bitch brian missing? I bought him in the cloning event a while back and now he is no where. I see him in the mystery box. How did this happen?
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Please see the notes of how to proceed in the mystery box portion of this very post you are commenting on.
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I have blown over 3000 clams, I could not get bitch Brian, please tell me there is a glitch! Bunny? Any one else has problem!
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Do you see him in there?
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I think there was a problem – I got Jasper and he disappeared, and I couldn’t get BB. This was after 41 tries.
Tinyco came back to me on this And told me that BB was Extra Rare and that I should try again. After another 22 tries, I got Jasper again (and this time placed him straight away) and got BB as well.
So, Tinyco are saying Extra Rare, but I reckon there was a problem. However, it looks like it’s fixed now.
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I tried twice and got Human Control truck both times won’t be trying agin it’s a waste of time ;(
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I’ve spent over 1,700 clams and have yet to earn B. Brian or Jasper. The 7 Human Control Trucks, 6 Dog Peter Copters and 4 Human Walkers I did get have totally turned me off of trying again. Maybe TC should put a limit of three of any of the decoration items — oh, yah, I totally forgot what a money pit this game has become for them. LOL
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Unless I didn’t see it but you could also win jack in the mystery box
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He is listed there… right under Bitch Brian. 🙂
I just don’t have all the photos linked
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Ugh I should know not to buy mystery boxes by now. I tried 4 times:
50 clams (really??)
Dogcopter
Dogcopter
Rocket Dog
Then I gave up and cried in a corner lol. Least I shady have Jaspar from Christmas.
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Has anyone gotten Bitch Brian from the box? He’s the only one i didn’t have.
I got 2 adoption centers
250 clams
50 clams
2 walking humans
2 dog copters
1 spay and neuter clinic
3 dog dollars
1 dog rocket
And no b Brian. Grrrr
The only prizes showing now is
50 Clams
Truck
Coins
Bb
Walking humans
Dog copter
Adoption center
Just curious if there is a possible glitch, i have never had such bad luck before.
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I’ve had really bad luck too. I have every prize except Bitch Brian. I asked TinyCo what the odds were for each prize. They apparently can’t divulge that information.
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I messaged them. They “said” the more rare prizes were more difficult to obtain. They said to keep trying, but over 1,700 spent should have produced B. Brian or Jasper. They did say to have a nice day. LOL
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Any idea how long Meg’s task is for the sweaters. Trying to see if I should send Chris and Quagmire or Joe Meg’s items first, but really depends how much te we need Meg to get those. Thanks!
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4hrs
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Thanks!!
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So we get 12 days to collect for the first two characters and less than five days with 20 hours of build time before we can start for the second two after having nothing to do for two days. Then we see rare and extra rare drops and one character is the only collector for an item for the other. Not quite the slow pace we saw the first week. This will indeed be quite the challenge!! Good luck everyone!!!
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The first part was 7/8 days wasn’t it? Did last Thursday night/Friday morning?
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I think he means that there were 12 days from the start of the event to the end so technically players had 12 days to get the first two characters. Yes, most got them quickly and didn’t have anything to do for a couple of days. This looked daunting at the start, but I am one item away for the last three items for Meg in about 14 hours. Have a real good jump on Joe too. Taking some work but should finish the characters then can work on the quest line.
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Aargh – just dropped a large number of clans trying to get bitch brian, and have now read there seems to be some issue. Also, got Jasper as one of the prizes but can’t find him anywhere 😦
Have messaged Tinyco, but I’m not holding my breath!
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Check your Inventory Storage, in the Character sections.
Also, check your Quahog streets… he may be there with the Unlock Icon waiting for you to free him into the game. 😉
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Nope – nowhere 😦
He’s actually showing in the prize box again.
I also dropped a crazy amount of clams to try for bitch Brian, but no joy.
I messaged Tinyco, but they came back with a very unhelpful post saying that everything’s fine and I should try again. Problem is, I don’t want to spend any more clams on it as I don’t think it’s working. Has anyone managed to get Jasper or Bitch Brian out of the mystery box?
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I also spent 3000 clams in an attempt to get Bitch Brian and Jasper. Was finally awarded Jasper by the mystery box and he never appeared in my game. I contacted Tiny co. about both the terrible drop rate and missing character and their response was everything was working normally and then tried to appease me by refunding a measly 75 clams. This has proven to me that they don’t care about even their premium customers that pay thir bills. So I will no longer spend money on this game. Sad they have to be so greedy and take all the fun out of the game.
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Did you check in your Inventory for Jasper? That is where they usually appear when you win them. There or on your Quahog Streets with a bouncing unlock icon above them.
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Just a thought, TinyCo could make these new dog buildings a little bigger. We have plenty of room. Brewery and James Woods High should have been a skin.
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And after I won Jasper in the mystery box… he is in my game, but not showing up in Facespace… the number increased by he is not there. I tried restarting the game but it didn’t help. Should I be worried?
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No. Tap on the Character himself and see if he has a FaceSpace Icon… if so… tap on it. 😉
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2 hours for dog joe to unlock
4 hours and Peter and Lois finish
6 hours for dog Meg to unlock
Having a ton humans crawling around cause you haven’t cleared them for a while=priceless
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First off keep up the great work! This site is way more than just information I consider it more like a living strategy guide. With help from this site and the game itself my brand new PS4 has been sitting idle since the end of September when I started playing this religiously, hallelujer. But anywho I’m digging the event big time and its nice for a more layed back pace don’t get me wrong me and chaos go hand in hand but sometimes less is more! OK i just unlocked jailhouse Meg and placed the prison which I was stoked about cuz now I get to “break out” (pun intended) it’s fancy duds I got courtesy of death at the drive in albeit may be short lived. Moving on can any one please tell me if evil monkey and Neil are in the game and if so when will they be making an appearance , I’ve tried to find them on the site but have been unsuccessful. Does the human spay and neuter clinic drop anything? I won it from the mystery box along with two human control vans, 250 clamolions, 3 coins oh and Jasper, kinda bummed though I was hoping for bitch Brian but maybe they will have a dawg coin dump Monday similar to the 3d glassfest during the afor mentioned event.
Thx again
Ps. War the entire Cleveland family coming to stay for Xmas and buzz killington making a cameo as well(need him to complete the 100 clam group
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They have not been released yet.
See the post for updated info on the Mystery Box. 🙂
Ask TinyCo. 🙂
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I just spend $30 on mystery boxes because I really wanted those characters… I thought I’d share my results
1=Rocket Dog
2=Human Adoption Center
3=250 clams
4=Human Walker
5=50 clams
6=Human Control Van
7=Human Walker
8=Human Spay & Neuter Clinic
9=50 clams
10=Jasper
11=Human Walker
12=Human Adoption Center
13=50 clams
14=Human Walker
15=Bitch Brian+Bitch Brian Machine
Thankfully I got bitch Brian on my very last chance before I ran out of clams…. 15 boxes and I still didn’t get Jack. I now have 4 human walkers and 2 adoption centers which is annoying… it’s also lame that 250 clams is a one timer (it disappears from the options after you get it) but 50 clams repeats.
As you can see it took me 10 boxes before I got single character! Luckily some of these decorations are pretty cool. The rocket dog launches when you tap on him, the helicopter flys up and then crashes, the human walker the woman begs and then the dog gives her a treat, and the control van drives around your town. So overall, I feel like I got an okay deal, but I really was not expecting it to take me 15 tries to get bitch brian. He has some awesome animations!
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Ay least you answered my question. I didn’t get bbrian with my 11 tries.
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honestly, i jus wanted to say this(if you don’t want to post this here, it’s fine but i think this all needs to be said), but thank you🐰Bunny🐰&&of course thank you🌟Alissa🌟 for always keepin us addicts updated as much as possible all the time no matter how small details/info are&& even no matter how delayed the updates &&phases can be sometimes, you are always on the case LOL!.i probably would have STOPPED playin this game all together by now if it wasn’t for your awesome-magical-carrot eating-super blogg powers Bunny lmao.i think you both deserve a shout-out every once in a while to still let y’all know&&remind you if you’re having a bad day that we ALL appreciate you so so much!
😁😀😄😊😌
✨💫
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Awww thanks so much. 🙂
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Question: If the event ends on Nov 24th, that doesn’t seem to give a lot of time to release and get Dog Peter, Dog Louis and Poodle Stewie, who all are in The Dawg House group with Sheepdog Chris and Bulldog Meg in FaceSpace. Do you think this event going to extend through TG weekend?
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OR… if you read the disclaimer at the bottom of the initial week 1 release I put in from Tinyco… it will be revisited later… so could be more to come at a later time. 🙂
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I hope this revisit won’t take as long as that darn blimp took.
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I forgot to look, do any new buildings have the dog coins as a drop?
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Yes… Meg & Joe’s
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Thank u for the quick mystery box list! Saved me from something I think I would have regretted.
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Long time reader, first time poster, lol. I think there is a glitch due to Rupert’s mystery box. Mine lists Bitch Brian but I already have him…..or used to. I still have his cloning machine but he is gone from my character inventory. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem. I already sent tiny co. an in game message.
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Others reported it too. I sent them a message as well. 🙂
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I reached out to tiny co last night and just checked and bitch Brian is back in my game. Fast response as far as I can tell. I employ the old adage, “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar”. Just being as polite and courteous as possible always seems to have the best results.
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This happened to me a while back with him. I got him back by replacing the cloning machine and he appeared next to it with the gold lock over his head.
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Just wanna add for those like me who saw that end date and went “What about Peter, Lois, and Stewie? They have a reward set!” There is a line in the Help and Support FAQ saying we will revisit the Dog Multiverse in the future for all of them!!!
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It is also in the Release post I put up for the Multiverse. 😉
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This week is short enough as it is and they have a 12 hour build time for a building. Seriously? Hopefully K-9 Joe and Bulldog Meg won’t take too long to unlock.
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Anyone else missing bitch Brian now that the new mystery box went live? I had him and now I don’t
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I have the same problem… Hes not in my game anymore.
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The Mystery box seems to have 3 great prizes,,(Bitch Brian,,Jasper,,250 Clams) one soso prize, (Jack) and then the rest are Blah,, 50 Clams for the cost of 75,,Hmm,,lol
I will skip this mystery box,, if the Blah prizes didn’t repeat, I might take a chance,, but since the prizes I don’t want repeat, not even going to try.
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Anyone else missing bitch Brian now that this mystery box went live?
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Yeah same here, I already had bitch brian but now he disappeard…
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Sit around for two-plus days with nothing to do and the new content drops with less than five days left and the first 20 hours are needed for builds just to begin collecting. This is going to be a rough one. Good thing I stockpiled up on clams during the Halloween event. Going to need lots and will be happy to spend them. You earned them TinyCo!!
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Why does bitch Brian have to be in the mystery box and not like human Brian
I’m not gonna take that risk, I already had Jasper and Jack so its a small change
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Umm…I opened thr app around 29 minutes ago (or less) and I got the Jasper guest line. “Make the yuletide gay.” Does anyone know why this happened?
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Could be old coding from a Questline you never finished. It happens. 😉
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No mystery box for me … Hmm not much content, we should have gotten this on Tuesday and more stuff today so we have a week left… And 2 characters to get! What about the other 3 Lois Peter and Stewie?
If all these are separate characters shouldn’t that mean Hot Meg should be a separate character too???
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Tinyco has said they will come back to this so I’m guessing they will come at a later mini-event.
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Thank Bunny! I’ve got the buildings started!
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The Dog Copter can repeat also. I just 2 of them from the box.
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It was in the store before the mystery box opened; now it’s gone from there.
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Already have both buildings going but they won’t be done until the morning alas. Do you have any lists of the tasks yet for items so I can get some characters jump started?
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Like post says… Hang in there while I go through it.
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Oops. Sorry. Today I have had the worst luck with reading thing properly.
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Lol no worries. 🙂
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You are one busy girl and you are doing a great job! Can’t wait to see what’s next!
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Busy is putting it lightly. 😉
Trying to keep up with my new life. Lol Thanks 🙂
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Omg what happened to my posts? Nobody likes me
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Instead of panicking… why don’t you take a look at the site. Also… see the Addicts Guidelines… especially on the part about Be Patient. 😉
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