It’s about that time again… CANDY O’ Clock…
Ooooooooh piece of Candy…Ooooooooh piece of Candy…Ooooooooh piece of Candy…Ooooooooh piece of Candy…Ooooooooh piece of Candy…
For more detailed information, you can find the full rundown on this here, but this post is more just a reminder. A reminder that at 12pm PDT the candy will reset and another piece will be available to collect at a random time starting AFTER that. So make sure you log into your game BEFORE 12pm PDT if you haven’t already collected your candy from the previous days release.
It’s almost time to find Candy #3. Per our test games and what we have seen via your comments, it seems most got the Bat Bucket/Candy first, then the Pumpkin Bucket/Candy second, so we can only assume that the next one may just be the Glowing Ghost Bucket/Candy. But still, this may vary by player. So look for any of the 3. (You may need to force close/restart your device to get it to show.)
Candy/Buckets will only appear by the sidewalks/roads. So if you’re having trouble finding it (BEFORE 12pm PDT) try removing some of your roads to make it easier to find it on the NEXT drop. It is VERY small and can easily hide behind things, so I removed any sidewalks that run behind objects and most down to only a few sections. Just look out for the sparklies. They are narrow but go quite high up.
Also, remember you ONLY have 12 hours from time it drops in your town to find it. So as soon as you enter your town and trigger it AFTER 12PM PDT…that time will start.
The candy is triggered each day by collecting rent from a building. So, if it’s after 12pm PDT and you’re not seeing candy, try collecting $ from all buildings. Once you do this it should signal the candy to drop.
You must have Brian unlocked in order to start the Jack-o-Lantern quests. Brian is in District 6. You will not be able to unlock Pink Brian and/or collect candy unless you are past this point.
If you are past that, then look to see where your Jack O Lantern is. Just go to the task bar and tap on Pink Brian quest and open the info. The details will pop up right over the top of where it is. Tall buildings can hide it. I was able to move it to better spot.
So again…
1 Candy/Bucket per day will appear in your Quahog and there will be ONLY 1 in your Quahog during that 24 hours window. That Candy Resets every day at Noon PDT. So if you trigger the candy at 8am PDT today and don’t have it BEFORE 12 noon PDT…no mater the time left… it resets at Noon PDT. So the closer you start to just before Noon, the less time you have to find it.
If a Candy Bucket is available, it will appear randomly in your Quahog after you collect rent from buildings. So keep a close eye out for it on ANY sidewalk. Even those you have hidden by buildings. It can be one of the 3. Also, it is easy to accidentally tap it… so watch for just a candy too. Both are very small in size and check your Pumpkin to see if you already collected without knowing. Force close / restart AFTER collecting from all buildings to make sure it shows.
If you do NOT collect the 1 Candy within 12 hours of it dropping in your game (or until Noon reset. Whichever comes first.), it is gone and you have no way of getting it back. So make sure you find it and snag it up right away. That means if you collect from your buildings at … let’s say 2pm PDT and the candy bucket is triggered…you will ONLY have til 2am PDT tomorrow to find it. 12 hours.
(Side note: some have tried putting their town in build mode to find it. Mixed results of it being helpful. I just look for sparkles and don’t “hide” roads behind anything. )
The Jack O Lantern drops ANYWHERE. Candy/Bucket drops by sidewalks/roads.
Psst…if you need help with Time Zones check out this site…
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
PDT (for those that don’t know) is Pacific Time USA.
Now…GO GET ME SOME CANDY!!!!
UPDATE: rebmatevol asked me to test this out, so here you go. I went into my game. No bucket.
So just as suggested and in the FAQs, I tapped on a few buildings to collect money. After about 4 taps, BOOM…CANDY BUCKET. (See how lil it is?) It was right on one of the only pieces of sidewalk I have left. Sparklies floating out.
Now to test a few theories, I put the game in “move mode” and moved buildings around it. I could NOT see it in move mode.
Once the building was in front of it, all I could see was the tip top of the sparkles coming out of it. (Accidentally tapped it when moving building, so I couldn’t get a shot of the sparkles above it. But here is an idea of what I COULD see. (As you can see, only a lil bit of sparkles up top showed above the building. So if it is a taller one, you may not see them at all.)
Again, this is a small item, so for those of you with “hidden” roads and sidewalks BEHIND objects, this will be a lil more challenging. Zoom in to find it. To give you an idea of just how small it does look, here is a zoomed out glance. So here is a lil test….can YOU spot it?
So in short, make sure as soon as the timer for candy resets you go in and tap/clear/collect ALL rent from buildings as you do not know what building collection will trigger it. (Was a building yesterday, trailer today for me.) If you still do NOT see it, force close and restart your game. (If your game is saved to an email or Facebook…you can even go as far as uninstall/reinstall.) Then try again to locate the sparklies.
What do YOU think of the event? Are you enjoying it? Thoughts on the Candy/Bucket Scavenger Hunt? Excited to get Pink Brian? Sound off in the comments below, you know we LOVE hearing from you!























Prob not right forum but this morning when I collected from neighbors and didn’t see or collect any items- anyone else having this disappearing issue?
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It’s an ongoing texture/visual glitch. They’re working on restoring it 🙂
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I have brian unlocked and the jackolantern dropped, but still not a single candy bucket has dropped in my town.
Also ive been having a wierd glitch for a while now that causes the game to crash whenever i visit friends.
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Are all your buildings and decorations clear of rent? You tapped on every single one at least once? Do you have any hidden sidewalks? Try the troubleshooting tips in this post?
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This seems like a fun simple event but after the first bucket I haven’t been able to find another. Each day I can’t makes it closer to me not being able to complete the quest and that anoys me.
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Make sure you clear rent from every building and decorations you own. Its random what one triggers the candy to drop.
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I think I might have missed Day 3, but it’s ok, yesterday was a busy travel day so I’m not sure when I played so oh well, better luck next time. I did have a thought though, what if the sparkling jack-o-lantern was sort of an indicator of when the candy was available? Maybe if it’s in your town it sparkles, when it’s not it’s just normal. It seems like there would be a downtime for some people and others not so much?
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My candy is gone and my pumpkin is still sparkling.
It triggers when YOU clear rwnt off your buildings, so it may have just not triggered yet. Watch again after clearing the money for it. You still have over 2 hours
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Since I’m having problems with that am/pm stuff and the candies seem to be glitched for me:
New candies See supposed to drop after midnight (24:00/00:00) PDT?
And if i don’t grab it until 12:00 i need to reactivate it again?
I’m asking since candy never dropped in the first 12 hours and only 2 dropped in the last 12 hours so far… So by now i think i already missed one, nur was checking in every 2-3 hours and collecting every rent/character
I rearranged my town and only have 3 streets (fully visible) left after having a hard time finding the first candy (right the day of your first candy Post).
So am i glitched and should contact tinyco or did i just screw up the times?
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Candies are supposed to drop at 12pm PDT (which is 12 noon, not midnight). You have 12hrs to collect it from when it first appears in your town after 12pm pdt (which means you go into your town and collect rent from a building, to should appear at that point).
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Ah thx, so i was only confused with that am/pm stuff
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They should give me back the Old Zoom i mean i can play High Graphic Games on My Z1. The Zoom on my Device is so annoying and destroys Fun to play the game…..
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Check in to the game hourly – removed roads – no candy since Day 1 😦
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You have Brian unlocked and the jack o lantern dropped?
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Yes I do – nothing since Day 1 – and very little in the way of roads now to be sure I don’t miss it.
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WAY OFF TOPIC QUESTION. This is something regarding the previous event. I just remembered that one of the Blam Prizes (I believe it was the “Q”, stated that it would be generating nerds with a chance to drop Clams even after the event was over.) Was it a misunderstanding on my part? I don’t recall seeing anymore nerds ever since event finished.
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Complications. Minions n Nerds caused issues in players games. They were not able to do what they wanted.
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As of 11:30pm (Eastern Time, USA) tonight (Sunday) I only have 2 candies. I’ve read that some people have 3?? Did I miss a candy??
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It’s possible you’ve missed one, which colors do you have? Today was blue, yesterday red/orange and Friday was purple..
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Today I got blue and yesterday I got purple. Both pieces were collected after 3pm (EST) yesterday and today.
My pumpkin (the event icon) didn’t show up til after Midnight on Saturday morning, I assume because Brian was busy on a long storyline task and wasn’t freed up until then.
Ya think I missed the first day because Brian being preoccupied??
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The drops happened regardless of Brian being busy for me. Peter had the ! Pop up for me and the dialog popped up. Then Pumpkin.
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We’ll Bunny, if this doesn’t answer everyone’s candy questions, I don’t know what will! 😉
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I’m so grateful to you guys. I seriously would be lost without you. I seem to have double tap-itis and miss a lot of the conversations but I always know I can come here and get the scoop. I’m sure I sound like a broken record for thanking you so much but just suck it up and take another compliment. Thanks for doing what you do.
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🙂 Thank you for being here!
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No, thank you
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Sorry. It made me think of the two chipmunks from Looney Tunes who constantly thanked each other and complimented one another. You wouldn’t by any chance know who I’m talking about would you? lol I think they were a Chip and dale rip off.
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Mac and Tosh, the Goofy Gophers.
And while they are commonly though to be a parody of Chip and Dale, they have nothing in common other than being rodents.
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Cool. I don’t remember much about them other than they were really polite. That was back in the day when you sat in front of the TV eating a bowl of cereal on Saturday morning before anyone else got up. Changed channels with your hand and only had three of them. If they were fuzzy you had to go outside and turn the antenna till the picture cleared. Sorry. My ADD kicked in. Thanks for the info.
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I know this isn’t the right post for this, but has anybody else noticed that there doesn’t seem to be a time limit on the sexy stewie costume? Usually the time is counting down like on the tom tucker deal. Does anybody know if the costume is here to stay?
Thanks to everybody that works this site, it is always super helpful
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No countdown on him, and I don’t know why, but he is timed. The first popup that came up showed when it expires, but it’s also in the in game FAQs..
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Was just wondering what some costumes/characters people hope to see in the Halloween event? Personally I would love…
Quagland/Clevemire
Stewie in his duck costume
Meg in her sexy cat costume ( I can’t believe I just said I wanted that…yuck)
Dr. Hartman in his pirate costume “yar, I be a doctor”
Retep, peters evil twin
I know 3 of those aren’t from the Halloween episodes but I want them anyways haha!
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Check out this post for loads of ideas! 🙂
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Thanks, sorry for posting in the wrong section 🙂
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🙂
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Nice. I would like to see Herbert in his uniform. Maybe even add a task of him fighting the old Nazi.
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Not sure where else to post this, but what issues does the latest install-able update in the play store take care of? Is it safe to download without causing crashing or other issues?
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Playstore should have been safe to download from to begin with. It was the Apple update that was causing problems…but all has been fixed now. 🙂
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Working characters nonstop and still no hats for stewie. Also, not even close on ths other items other than baby powder. No way I will have enough time to collect everything for his outfit if it ends as planned.
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I feel for you dude. What’s worse for me is that I don’t have Stewie unlocked yet so I can’t get the costume. They better not do this for the Duck costume for Stewie during the Halloween event.
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I should have stewie unlocked on monday. I have no chance for it.
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Quick question on the human Rupert. I just unlocked stewie and got to quest to get human Rupert and it says that I have 3d and some mind to buy him. So do I have 3d or just until tomorrow?? Please help?
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According to TinyCo he’ll leave on Monday at 3pm PDT…
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That’s what we need — JAMES WOODS in the game for Halloween 🙂 The “ooooh piece a candy!” in the article brought this to mind lol
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Got Sexy stewie finished today. Just thought I would share.
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nice!
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I saw someone else mention Sexy Stewie drop rates and it reminded me of my own question; are all drop rates the same? I mean, do all rares have the same drop rate, and all epics are the same, etc? Or does it vary a little?
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They vary within a percentage of how often they fall. So basically no…not all drop rates are crated equal. Some extra rare might fall 5% of the time, some might fall 7%…it’s all within a range for that drop
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But is the exact percentage determined server side or client side? Do they enter a value for, say, pink champagne, or do they just designate ‘extra-rare’ and everyone’s individual app determines the actual chance with in that range?
cause that would explain why there are always people going ‘oh hey they’re dropping like candy’ while others are like ‘why won’t it drop?!?! ragephonesmash’
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I honestly don’t know. I’ll see if I can dig in a little further with TC for some kind of answer..
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So I went back on at around 9pm (1pm pdt) and I had 2 sweets in the town!
I currently have 1 of eac sweet type, not sure why but not complaining. I saw one on the road and then while dragging across the city I saw one which was behind a building as the building took a split second to show up.
So yeah I have 3 candys.
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SWEET!! Glitch in our favor are always a plus. WOOHOO!!
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I think he got mine that was missing yesterday, lol.
Hey give it back! hahaha
(no it’s okay you can keep it… 😉 )
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I have checked since 2pm CST (12PDT) every hr. with collecting rent, moved all my buildings so I can see my sidewalks and still haven’t see the bucket yet. I seen it after 3pm CST yesterday, but…nothing so far I did the force close so will see later. But I will not give up!!! Have plenty of time to get candy.
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My candy was hidden behind George Takai sitting in his captains chair 🙂
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HAHAHHAAH I hope you got a pic of that. 😉
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Maybe he was playing Hide The Candy?
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This may have been mentioned earlier and I missed it (for that I apologize), but once we get enough candy to get pink Brian is he free?
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No problem. We do not know the answer to what happens after all 10 pieces are collected as there has only been 3 to date. So not sure if you just tap something and he pops up. Or if a completed dialog appears and he goes to your inventory. We will report it as soon as we see what happens though. 😉
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Thanks. Top notch help as always.
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Please help, I got the magical pumpkin and tried all tricks to activàte drop but nothing has worked. I watered till after Sunday at 12, and removed most of my roads and nothing….. No new updates to DL but still no candy….WHY?????
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So you tapped the pumpkin and went through all the dialog? Collected rent for all buildings and decorations? Tried force close and restart? Tried looking BEHIND objects that may block its view on the sidewalk?
Let us know.
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I finally got off my lazy butt and reorganized my town. Now with the candy quest I got paranoid and took out all of my roads again except for one strip. This should ensure the candy appears only in that location right? If not I’m gonna kick myself for tearing them up again.
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Yes, if you only have 1 patch of road it should show up somewhere on that patch in your game 🙂
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Thanks Ms Alissa. You rock.
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😀
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This worked for me, positive it will for u
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It did. Thx
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Unrelated, but any word if sexy Stewie will be extended past tmrw 3pm pdt? The music notes are dropping at an extra rare rate and the alcohol is dropping at an epic rate for me… Have sent this request to TC but no response yet
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Still same time so far. Sorry.
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Drop rates have sucked for Sexy Stewie! I have had everyone on missions constantly trying to get everything and I still need 10 music notes and 3 bottles. Wish they would listen to requests and give us another day or 2 on this.
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All we can do is keep asking. 🙂
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It would seem, based on how they’ve put things in the game in the past, that the Sexy Stewie costume will be around until you get it, but the Quest that involves having Sexy Stewie and Rupert is the one that is only for the weekend. Normally, limited time costumes have that label in the costume shop, but Sexy Stewie doesn’t, and there is no timer on the icon for getting the costume, just on the Rupert mission.
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No, if you don’t unlock the costume by tomorrow at 3pm PDT it will be gone forever, even if you’ve started it. That’s how it’s written in the in-game FAQs as well..
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Agreed…. Nearly identical numbers for me, except I have 4 champagnes. I had all the hats drop immediately and they were supposed to be extra rare, so it makes no sense. It’s ridiculously impossible without clams.
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I haven’t spent clams and at present all I need is one dulcet tones. I’ve got three characters working on it and hope that in the morning I’ll be fine.
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Agreed this is happening to me too and also who’s town is that where it is lvl 45 with about 2000 clams no need to tell if you dont want but I am just a tad curious
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It is one of our games. It is what you get when you pay $100 at a time to buy clam packs so you can speed through tasks and provide helpful info to all the readers of your blog. We pay money out of our own pockets to give you information in a timely manner. $100 buys you 3500 Clams. 🙂
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And that’s why we love you guys. Well that or it’s the liquor talking. Either way is cool.
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I have a feeling that they will be releasing a few different costumes you can only purchase with the daily candy..ie the only way to get every costume is getting every candy that drops
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Interesting thought, but I am wondering if there will be more involvement than that. Like you have to go trick or treat certain buildings to get them. Lol. 😉
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That is a really good idea. I officially hire you as a Tiny Co. quest figure outer. There is no pay and I don’t work for Tiny Co, but we can worry about the details later.
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Lol. 😉
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Got my third candy 😀 By the way you got +1999 clams, WTF! How many did you spend money for this game?!?
I don’t even got 200 😦
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We buy them. As you notice while looking round this site, we pay money out of our own pockets to give YOU all the details of characters, walkthroughs, district unlocks, etc. So we HAVE to keep buying those $100 clam packs. If we do not, then you don’t get the info. It is how we are able to provide so much detail and information. $100 Clam packs. (If you look at the OTHER pics above, you will see my other test game is down to a lil over 20, bout time to buy another $100 Clam Pack. Lol.)
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Is there a way to donate to the cause? Don’t know if ya’ll would want or even need the assistance but it would be nice to know if it was an option.
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Just keep coming round and making us smile 🙂
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Anything for you Bunnyliscious
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Gotcha so it’s anytime between the 2 times not exactly at the drop time! Thank you!!
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Correct. 😉
YOU trigger it buy collecting on buildings, so it could vary as to when YOU are active in the game. So just keep an eye out anytime you go in there. 😉
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I had a lot of hidden roads in my game, but it was set up really nice and to my liking. Butt (yes, I know it doesn’t have 2 “t’s”), I did miss one of the buckets somehow. So…… I decided to rearrange my little town again. I don’t have the most expensive portions of ground cleared, but had enough room to create very long streets from left to right and place all buildings along those long streets. In doing it this way, all street surfaces are now clearly visible. In the first line I placed the Fab 4 and Q Hotel buildings against the wooded area and ran the streets directly in front of them and continued building from there. Another thing that helped is placing everything that doesn’t earn coins into inventory until all the building was complete. All of this took about an hour or so. Hope this helps someone! Aaron
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You can ignore my other comment. I found one at the 3pm reset. I have a question though. Is there supposed to be one in the morning and then another after the reset for a possible total of two? I only two pieces so far was the 3pm one supposed to be the third. Just confused i guess.
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As we try to point out in the post… Only one a day. So only one in a 24 hour period. WHEN it shows is all up to you and when YOU play your game and collect rent to trigger it. So to say when you get it, we have no clue. You trigger it. So anytime between Noon PDT today and 1159 AM PDT tomorrow…your candy bucket could show up. I hope that helps to clarify. 😉
So there is a chance it may seem two a day if you went in at …say…8 am today and collected the one triggered yesterday…then went in after noon PDT and got the new one. It all depends on when YOU trigger them and find them. Does that help?
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Yes I think it does. Thanks
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If it doesn’t please let me know. Always happy to help. 😉
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Actually one more clarification. So I got the candy at the 3pm reset. So does that mean I shouldn’t even start looking for the next one until 3 tomorrow?
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Yes…if you have 3 pieces (or if you got the blue one today) don’t look for any more until tomorrow after 12pm PDT
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I got my second piece at the reset today. I missed out on one somewhere along the way I guess
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Probably lost it in the 12hr window of when it falls, sadly. Fortunately, there are several extra days built in so hopefully everything will still be ok 🙂
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If I was to have 3 out of 3 candies would I then only drop the two other candies or can you get 4 out of 3?
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We do not have the answer to that yet.
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I am enjoying searching for the daily candy ~ and the fact that it appears randomly after collecting rent makes it even more so interesting. The question though I have is, should the candy appear the first time you claim rent on buildings after the game resets, or is the candy really completely random and can appear after the 3rd or 4th time one coolest rent from multiple buildings? I have cleared rent on multiple buildings today since the game reset and yet to see it, granted i might be blind today or something….but previously the candy has appeared after the first time clearing multiple buildings.
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It varies. Today…I had to tap round on at least 3 to 4 objects to collect before it showed up on the sidewalk. Refresh this post and see my update at the bottom.
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Had a terrible time finding this one behind the fab 4 building, but it was there. Blue. I just put my town back together after comicon & don’t want to have to tear up the roads again.
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While it’s annoying, it might help if you at least take the roads up that might hide the candy behind buildings. Roads are easy to take up and put down 🙂
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This is true. There are only a few areas in my town I would need to tear up. Thanks.
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🙂
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Bunny thank you for the hints and tips, I usually have very little sidewalk so I’ve just been trying to have all of my characters go do indoor tasks so that it’s easier to spot the candy on my sidewalks, although I did decrease the amount of sidewalks I have to only 2 so that I have a smaller chance of the candy hiding behind the building.
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We are always happy to help. 😉
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Zero candy despite being eligible. I am going to give up on this one. I have tried your tips, you are stars as always but nothing. Well candy is bad for you anyway and we shouldnt eat candy we find on the street! Tinyco being educational perhaps.
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That’s too bad. My suggestion, this is like lost keys. You panic and search and get frustrated though it may be right there in front of you. Take a step away. Wait. Try later 🙂
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Check for an update if there is one it will show up tomorrow
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Hopefully this will clear up the confusion for people who weren’t getting the candy. I don’t understand why people were complaining though. This is exactly what they asked Tiny Co. A cool event costume that does not require clams, just a little bit of effort. Do some remodeling if you have to, whatever. The point is, it’s a nice opportunity for players to get a FREE costume just for logging in and doing a little searching. That’s just my 2 cents.
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Having a lot of trouble finding today’s candy. Moved building to see if they were behind them and still nothing. Also I’m having an issue with clicking on the pumpkin and the game crashing
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Did your force close and restart? Did you tap EVERY building and collect money?
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Got one candy of each so far!
Also haven’t changed a thing about my town. Finding it is part of the fun.
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Interesting. Loaded my game fifteen minutes ago, collected rent but no candy appeared on any of my pavements UNTIL I tapped on the Jack o’Lantern.
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Is the hamster image in your gravatar named Sasha Grey by any chance? Looks like her…
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ok Now I feel dumb. I didn’t even know there was a Jack o’Lantern till I read your post. Looked around and sure enough it was hidden behind Stop’N Shop. Thanks for the info. I should probably go read the article about it instead of just winging it lol.
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lol, sometimes it helps 😉
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Got me candy number three… A blue one today. Funny side note, I was in a cafe with wifi just now when I got mine and I noted a couple people accessing their game at the next table. They were getting quite mad that they couldn’t find their candy so I asked if I could try to help. I found both of their candies almost immediately, it was so easy. It seems that some people are completely blind to these things lol
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Mine was behind the thrift store.
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I got a ghostly..! 😉
So, it’s no random at all, because now I have one of each.
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Apparently I missed yesterdays candy (looked everywhere to no avail), but found todays after following your advise of deleting/reinstalling the app. Am I now going to miss out on pink brian because I missed a day of the sixty-four thousand dollar bars candy?
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You only need a few candies so missing one shouldn’t impact you 🙂
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Remove all but a few road in your city and when you collect rent the candy will spawn on your remaining sidewalk.
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Thank you. I was able to find a piece after seeing the sparkles. I wouldn’t have seen it if not for your hint.
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Glad to help 🙂
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Any wait for candy number 3 changes in 3 mins can’t wait!!!!
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My blimp won’t activate a construction site though I made stewie search for one thus completing the first blimp.mission now I’m stuck on mission two to tap the blimp site but there is no blimp site. And tinyco support jeeps ignoring me. Anyone help? Or should I just accept its impossible to play now and tinyco are literally the worst customer service ever?
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What troubleshooting to this point have you tried?
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Everything on the website and in game and yeh multiple attempts at direct contact to report it. And there’s nothing I seem to be the only person in the world with this problem.
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😦 Sorry. I wish I could help more. All I can suggest is the basics of troubleshooting. Other than that…out of the box…see if you can take the characters used for the task out of game play. In other words, try storing the buildings they came with and see if it pulls them out of the game too. If it does…Then try again to force close, restart, then go back into the game, replace the building, and see if it helps to trigger anything different.
Other than that, TinyCo has to step in. With it being the weekend, that is tricky as no one is there outside bare bones staff to just keep the game active.
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Well I been trying since Friday morning. And the I guess I’ll try anything at this point.
Was just hoping someone knew what’s up just weird.
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Please let us know how it goes. 🙂
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Quick question. Is Sexy Stewie going to be extended or can we purchase what doesn’t drop? I’m wondering if this timed event will be done before I can get everything.
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To this very moment…it is still showing in all the FAQs as the exact same time we reported. No change.
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My candy has dropped twice by my bucket which is near the Griffins house, and not near any road at all. So for anyone having problems, this may be worth a look! I don’t mind since I’ve still been able to find it 🙂
Also, I was wondering if anyone else is still having trouble with Ollie Land? Mine still gives no xp or money, and I often crash when coming back to my town. I’ve reported it to TinyCo, but was just curious if this was stil a common thing for others.
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Yes, that is a reported issue. You did right by letting them know as they are still looking into it.
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I haven’t been able to find the one today. I got rid of all but one square of road and I still have seen it. No sparkles either
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Refresh the post and look at the hints and update we posted at the end. 😉
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