Star Trek How To: Dilithium Crystals Math

Posted on April 20, 2015 by Bunny | 211 Comments

FYI… for those of you that complained TinyCo should put those “Con” Characters to use, you may want to go check their tasks. Just sayin. Looking at you George and Patrick. 😉

Hey there Tribblemakers!

Lots of cool New Items in the game all needing Dilithium Crystals. Many of you are now panicking. How will you get all the items you need? No worries, here to help as usual. This will be a LOT of info so you are gonna need a minute. 😉

First off, do not look at Kirk as someone you need RIGHT NOW! Just like Takei and Jesus, he is essentially the “last item” to shoot for in the Replicator. So please do not panic thinking you need him this very moment or this week even. It will take time. Trust me. But no worries, as Bertram progresses and you progress Dilithium will become easier to obtain. These counts are for ONLY up to Warp Core 5. We still have MORE coming and I am sure MORE options to earn. 😉

Now for the breakdown… as of right now, these are all the available items within the Menu, Enterprise Rooms, and Replicator that you can create to help earn more Dilithium for your game. This is for Regular earned items. YOUR results will depend on what YOU own, make, build, etc… along with YOUR time in the game.

ROOMS & BUILDINGS

PAYOUT EVERY 1HR

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Geordi’s VISOR Hut	1hr	1	1

This Building does not have a ton of Payout on it, but if you are in your game every 1hr, make sure you tap on it to help.
Possibility of 20 Dilithium in 20hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 2HRS

Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
The Space Crapper	2hrs	1	1
Riker’s Quarters	2hrs	1	1
Genetics Lab	2hrs	1	1
Crew’s Quarters	2hrs	1	1

If you Collect on these rooms every 2 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout. (Remember most rooms you can build 2 of)…
Every 2hrs x 8 times = 8 (32 for all 4 Rooms)
Every 2hrs x 9 times= 9 (36 for all 4 rooms)
Every 2hrs x 10 times= 10 (40for all 4 rooms)
Possibility of 40 Dilithium in 20hrs for all 3 Rooms.

PAYOUT EVERY 3HRS

Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Medical Lab	3hrs	2	1

If you Collect on this room every 3 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember most rooms you can build 2 of)…
Every 3hrs x 4 times = 8
Every 3hrs x 5 times= 10
Every 3hrs x 6 times= 12
Possibiliy of 12 Dilithium in 18hrs.

PAYOUT EVERY 4HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Earl Grey Hawt Tea	4hrs	5	1

If you Collect on this Building every 4 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, you can build more than one)
Every 4hrs x 3 times= 15
Every 4hrs x 4 times= 20
Every 4hrs x 5 times= 25
Possibility of 20 Dilithium in 20hrs

Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Weapons Locker	4hrs	5	1
Cargo Bay	4hrs	5	1
Robotics Lab	4hrs	5	1

If you Collect on these rooms every 4 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember most rooms you can build 2 of)…
Every 4hrs x 3 times= 15 (45 for all 3)
Every 4hrs x 4 times= 20 (60 for all 3)
Every 4hrs x 5 times= 25 (75 for all 3)
Possibility of 75 Dilithium in 20 hrs

Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Wardrobe Services	4hrs	12	3
Sonic Shower	4hrs	1	1

Now these two rooms are a bit odd ones out. If you can build TWO Wardrobe Services, I would highly suggest it. The payout is really good on it.
Every 4hrs x 3 times= 36
Every 4hrs x 4 times= 48
Every 4hrs x 5 times= 60
Possible 60 Dilithium in 20hrs for Wardrobe Services

The Sonic Shower is a low payout, so once you have all the items you need from it, I would suggest replacing it for a better paying one.

PAYOUT EVERY 6HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Bat’Leth Badassery Outlet	6hrs	8	2
T’Plana Hath	6hrs	8	2

If you Collect on these Buildings every 6 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout
Every 6hrs x 2 times= 16 (32 for 2)
Every 6hrs x 3 times= 24 (48 for 2)
Every 6hrs x 4 times= 32 (64 for 2)

Possibility of 64 Dilithium in 20hrs

Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Rec Room	6hrs	8	2
Super Rad Cargo Bay	6hrs	8	2

If you Collect on these rooms every 6 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember most rooms you can build 2 of)…
Every 6hrs x 2 times= 16 (32 for 2)
Every 6hrs x 3 times= 24 (48 for 2)
Every 6hrs x 4 times= 32 (64 for 2)
Possibility of 64 Dilithium in 20hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 8HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Vulcan High Command	8hrs	10	2

If you Collect on this Building every 8 hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, some you can build more than one)
Every 8hrs x 1 times= 10
Every 8hrs x 2 times= 15
Every 8hrs x 3 times= 30
Possibility of 30 Dilithium in 24hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 10HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Klingon Temple	10hrs	12	3

If you Collect on this Building every 10hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, some you can build more than one)
Every 10hrs x 1 times= 12
Every 10hrs x 2 times= 20
Possibility of 20 Dilithium in 20hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 12HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Borg Cube 63697	12hrs	15	3

If you Collect on this Building every 12hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, some you can build more than one)
Every 12hrs x 1 times= 15
Every 12hrs x 2 times= 30
Possibility of 30 Dilithium in 24hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 16HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Romulan Ale Bar	16hrs	20	4

If you Collect on this Building every 16hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, some you can build more than one)
Every 16hrs x 1 times= 20
Possibility of 20 Dilithium in 16hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 20HRS

Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Klingon Forehead Clinic	20hrs	25	5
Latinum Loans	20hrs	20	5

If you Collect on these Buildins every 16hrs throughout the day, here is an idea of your possible Payout (Remember, some you can build more than one)
Every 20hrs x 1 times= 25
Every 20hrs x 1 times= 20
Possibility of 45 Dilithium in 20hrs

For an overall Daily Collection of 530 Dilithium a day. (That is with only one of each item and not even completing all daily collections)

530 Dilithium x 10 Days left = 5300 Dilithium from just some Buildings & Rooms (I know many of you have multiples).

CHARACTERS

Now I know some of your Characters are on daily tasks to earn various Materials. If you are still collecting Materials for someone or Energy, keep them on that task. These are more for the Characters when they are free or you have some time to spend a few minutes to send them to get you some help. As shorter tasks earn you a lot more in a lot less time, I will be only focusing on tasks from 1-4hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 1HR

Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Starfleet Peter	1hr	5	12
Ferengi Mort	1hr	5	1
Starfleet Lois	1hr	50 5	10 1

As you can see, Starfleet Lois will be a HUGE boost in your Dilithium. I would suggest trying to spend a few hours each day to have her help you get where you need to be.
Every 1 hrs x 8 times = 45 Dilithium (90 for Mort & Peter)
~~Every 1hrs x 8 times = 450 Dilithium for Starfleet Lois~~
Possibility of 90 Dilithium in 8hrs with Mort & Peter
Possibility of 450 Dilithium in 8hrs with Starfleet Lois

~~That means if you just send Starfleet Lois alone over and over for 16hrs, you will have 900 Dilithium in 16 hrs!~~ Task is back down to just 5, but you can still make use of it along with the other two above to continue to earn a lot of Dilithium.

PAYOUT EVERY 2HRS

Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Riker	2hrs	10	2
Starfleet Peter	2hrs	10	2
Ferengi Mort	2hrs	10	2
Deanna Troi	2hrs	10	2
Edo Herbert	2hrs	10	2
Dr. Crusher	2hrs	10	2
Vulcan Quagmire	2hrs	10	2
Data	2hrs	10	2

Every 2hrs x 8 times = 80
Every 2hrs x 9 times= 90
Every 2hrs x 10 times= 100

So for just ONE Character going on their 2hr task throughout the day, you can earn 100 Dilithium Crystals in just 20hrs.
100 x 5 Characters= 500
100 x 6 Characters= 600
100 x 7 Characters= 700
Possibility of 500 Dilithium in 20hrs with ONLY 5 Characters

PAYOUT EVERY 3 HRS

Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Dr. Crusher	3hrs	15	3

If you are FREEMIUM, Dr. Crusher is your main option for Red Shirts. So you will most likely be using this 3hr task over and over to get the Red Shirts cleared. The payout is just as good as 4hr tasks, so a good idea to use it when you can.

Every 3hrs x 6 times = 90
Every 3hrs x 7 times= 105
Every 3hrs x 8 times= 120
Possibility of 120 Dilithium in 24hrs

PAYOUT EVERY 4HRS

This Characters will help with Bertram, so I will seclude them to ONLY this 4hr option.

Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Geordi	4hrs	15	3
Klingon Chris	4hrs	15	3
Talosian Stewie	4hrs	15	3
Picard (Locutus)	4hrs	15	3

With continuous battles with Bertram, here are the kind of payouts you will see.
Every 4hrs x 3 times= 45
Every 4hrs x 4 times= 60
Every 4hrs x 5 times= 75

To go just a bit further, let’s look at how it will work out with the Characters.
2 Characters x 75= 150 in 20hrs
3 Characters x 75= 225 in 20hrs
4 Characters x 75= 300 in 20hrs
So not even a full day of Bertram Battles with just 3 Characters will give you 225 Dilithium in 20hrs

Now for the basic tasks

Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Riker	4hrs	15	3
Ferengi Mort	4hrs	15	3
Edo Herbert	4hrs	15	3
Vulcan Quagmire	4hrs	15	3
Data	4hrs	15	3

These Characters do have a chance at 2hr tasks for a lil better payout, but I find more people may be in there games every 4hr so I put their option in this one too. Here is an idea of the payout.
Every 4hrs x 3 times= 45
Every 4hrs x 4 times= 60
Every 4hrs x 5 times= 70

A little more breakdown…
2 Characters x 75= 150 in 20hrs
3 Characters x 75= 225 in 20hrs
4 Characters x 75= 300 in 20hrs
With just 3 Characters you can get 225 Dilithium in 20hrs

For an overall Daily Collection of 1160 Dilithium a day. (That is not even using all the Characters possible for the payout.)

1160 Dilithium x 10 Days left = 11600 Dilithium from just sending your Characters out to do what they already are.

~~Keep in mind this did not even include Starfleet Lois add her in …~~

~~900 Dilithium x 10 Days left = 9000 Dilithium not even sending Starfleet Lois as many times as you can.~~ She is back to just 5, but still helpful as it is an hour task so easy to send her over n over.

Add to this the Daily Bertram Battles at the CURRENT highest level (if you only stay there as more will come with higher payout.)

250 Dilithium x 10 Days left = 2500 defeating Bertram at ONLY the 3rd Laser Borg Bertram.

PLANETS

On a side note, you also have the option to send Characters to Planets. At times you may get a BETTER payout as the same time frame is spent on one Character will the same payout (like a 4hr task) but you add in the possibility of extra items, like Dilithium in great amounts being added. It may be worth a try if you still have lots of Transporter Energy to use up.

Planet	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Possible
Cespoolus	1hr	5	1	15 Dilithium
Bowel Regulus	2hrs	10	2	100 Dilithium
Beta Max	2hrs	25	20	500 Dilithium/ 3 Phaser
Oh No’s	3hrs	15	3	45 Dilithium/ 2 Synthesizer Ore
Nom Nomulous	4hrs	15	3	100 Dilithium /3 Phaser/ 2 Synthesizer Ore
Acapella XII	4hrs	15	25	2 Synthesizer/ 450 Dilithium/ 750 Dilithium
Wai Iota IV	8hrs	25	5	50 Dilithium/ 2 Synthesizer Ore

So as you can see, if you are going to be sending a Character off on a random task that may not help out much, have Transporter Energy to spare, might as well try for a BETTER payout than that 1-4 hour task would have given you.

UPDATE: Thanks so much to our awesome readers sharing their results with other. Here are some of the results on Planet trips we are seeing, give them a try if you would like. 😉

Savory Cook: I’m still playing around with it. Nothing too consistent. I did okay sending Klingon Meg alone to Planet Acapella a few times. She brought back 450 Crystals twice, 750 Crystals on another trip. The last one just 15 Crystals though. Helped me unlock Picard. When she gets back from this trip from Acapella might try my luck at Planet Beta Max. Will post if find a good combo for the 500 crystal chance there.

Alex: (also Acapella) I sent peter alone 4 times and 3 of those times he came back with 750 crystals.

Mike: Planet acapella has paid out quite nicely for me. Only sending out klingon Meg since she has become useless lol. Last 5 trips were 750, nothing, 450, nothing, then 750 again. Not bad in less than 2 days. Will be running out of blue orbs soon though.
Thanks for the write up. Hopefully we get a special 100k dilithium treat like at Christmas.

TRIBBLES

Though these lil guys were set to go away by Phase 2 starting, I am happy to say they are still hanging around. So tap on them anytime you can see them in your town. One at a time, so when they multiply you get the full spawn. If you already have too many in your Enterprise, only 1 or 2 will spawn from multiply if any at all when tapped. These lil guys drop anywhere from 1-5 Dilithium each. That can add up fast. Not to mention the extra CHANCE Clam popping out now and then.

PREMIUM THINGS

Now for the Premium breakdown… as of right now, these are all the available items within the Menu, Enterprise Rooms, and Replicator that you can create to help earn more Dilithium for your game. This is for items you can spend your Clams on. As these are more items you may just buy one or multiple of, I will group them together with their possible daily payout for you over 24hrs of Collecting Rent on them.

Now this is more for those that do not want to put the time or effort in to get the items they are going for in “play for it” method and instead WANT to spend Clams. As always, the choice to pay out your precious Clams is YOURS to make. You do not have to spend them, but here is an idea if YOU choose to do so.

Premium Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 4 Times	Collect 5 Times
Dilithium Lab	4hrs	50	10	200	250
Starfleet Medical Center	4hrs	5	2	20	25
Picard’s Fish Bowl	4hrs	5	1	20	25

Premium Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 3 Times	Collect 4 Times
Dilithium Refinery	6hrs	200	40	600	800
Starfleet Research Facility	6hrs	8	2	24	32
Starfleet Academy	6hrs	8	2	24	32

Premium Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 2 Times	Collect 3 Times
Dilithium Mine	8hrs	500	100	1000	1500
Klingon Bird of Prey	8hrs	10	2	20	30
Borg Assimilated James Wood High	8hrs	10	2	20	30

Premium Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 2 Times
Tribble Furrier	12hrs	15	3	30

Premium Item	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP
Quark’s/ Mort’s Bar	24hrs	35	6

Premium Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 11 Times	Collect 12 Times
Assimilation Room	2hrs	1	1	11	12

Premium Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 3 Times	Collect 4 Times
Red Shirt Doom Room	6hrs	8	2	24	32
Observation Deck	6hrs	8	2	24	32
Fuzzball Bay	6hrs	8	2	24	32
Cybernetics Lab	6hrs	200	40	600	800

Premium Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 2 Times	Collect 3 Times
Raquetball Court	8hrs	10	2	20	30
Decompression Chamber	8hrs	10	2	20	30

Premium Room	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 2 Times
McBurgertown	10hrs	12	5	24

Premium Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 9 Times	Collect 10 Times
Worf	2hrs	10	2	90	100
Q	2hrs	10	2	90	100
Klingon Meg	2hrs	10	2	90	100
Spock	2hrs	10	2	90	100

Premium Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 6 Times	Collect 7 Times
Q	3hrs	15	3	90	105

Premium Character	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Collect 4 Times	Collect 5 Times
Worf	4hrs	15	3	60	75
Klingon Meg	4hrs	15	3	60	75
Spock	4hrs	15	3	60	75
Guinan	4hrs	15	3	60	75

(Klingon Meg is in here only due to Premiums were required for purchase in order to be able to obtain her.)

Premium Planet	Time	Dilithium Crystals	Starfleet XP	Possible
Planet Vulcan	2hrs	10	3	400 Dilithium
Kronos	4hrs	15	3	3 Life Support/ 200 Dilithium/ 100 Dilithium

Note: These Planets will be useful as a possible Substitute for a Character task if you unlocked it. It will give you the standard payout, but a chance at additional Dilithium on top of it if you have excess Transporter Energy.

As you can see, WITHOUT spending any Clams at all you can easily earn 19400 Dilithium by the end of the Event. All that by not even using ALL the Items, Character, Buildings, Planets, and side options available at your fingertips for a FREEMIUM Player. This does not even include what you already have right now.

What do YOU think of it all. Are there any tips you want to add? Any strategies you are planning to use in order to gain the amount of Dilithium you will need? Feel free to share with your fellow Players your tips and tricks.

~Bunny

211 responses to “Star Trek How To: Dilithium Crystals Math”

Marie | April 27, 2015 at 8:08 am | Reply

IT IS QUITE HARD to get all the dilithium we need, i currently miss ONLY dilithium to unlock
-Picard (8K)
-Dr. crash (3.5)
plus Data (4K) and Captain Kirk (15K)

-I cpuld have unlocked crash, but i preffered to unlock Stewie, as he battles Bertram.

At the end I need 30 500 dilithium to un lock these guys, while i am only making 2K a day 😦

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- Bunny | April 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm | Reply
  
  Bertram. Use him and he will boost it.
  
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Jan2re | April 27, 2015 at 12:56 am | Reply

Still ned 35000 dilithium….and Played the game almost 24/7 for the last month.

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Shay | April 26, 2015 at 6:59 pm | Reply

Busting up the space rocks with the phasers gives you dillithiums too 😉 I had all these orange phasers but nothing to do with them…I remembered that blasting rocks got me dillithiums and wanted to see if it still worked. It does and I got dillithiums, experience points and I even got 2 synthesizer ore. The slow rocks only gave me one but the fast rocks gave me 5 and if other rocks fly into the stream they get blasted as well.

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Cat | April 24, 2015 at 4:49 am | Reply

I know this has nothing to do with the event, but I’m pretty stoked they brought the kool-aid man back… He was the only character I was missing from last years events! ☺️

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Carol Forrest | April 23, 2015 at 1:26 am | Reply

Bunny, do you have a regular job? You spend so much time helping players, I don’t know how you could work and do this also. I could not. You are Wonder Bunny and I thank you for all of your cheerful help!!!

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- Bunny | April 23, 2015 at 7:42 am | Reply
  
  It helps most my work is done online and on my phone. Lol. I enjoy helping others.
  
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  - Peter Griffin is NOT Happy | April 23, 2015 at 7:47 am | Reply
    
    Is there any other way of earning Dark matter, i want to get Kirk, but there is no way i can earn enough in the time left, just by beating Bertram…. Please help.
    
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    - Bunny | April 23, 2015 at 7:54 am | Reply
      
      Wait to see what the final Phase brings.
      
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Isaac | April 23, 2015 at 12:20 am | Reply

During the next event, I’m going to weight heavily the cost of making a building versus the payout of the building over the length of the event. If the building costs 1000 currency and pays out 1/hr and no drops, then I am better off saving currency.

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Mark | April 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm | Reply

Not sure where to ask this, buy is 10 the height star fleet level or is there more?

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- Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  
  More. 😉
  
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CkC | April 22, 2015 at 4:33 pm | Reply

I have 2426, and the 1000 crystal building in the shop i don’t have, i have one of every other crystal building that isnt a clam item, as well as one of each of the replicator buildings. I have every room is some 1 crystal for 2 hours or 5 for 4 hour building, except 4 are the green and blue crystal rooms. I have only Data and Kirk not unlocked, and i actually bought clams for Guinan and Q (that did some good but still). I have only 2426 crystals and only JUST a half hour ago reached Starfleet level 9. My only saving grace is i can in fact defeat Bertram with Stewie Picard and Guinan ALONE, and i am forced to try doing the event quests in hopes that SOMETHING gives me enough EXP for getting to level 10. Can i still get Kirk? Also only have 50 green crystals, using 10 for the casket ejector won’t let me reach level 10 and then i have 8 days to get 20 more green. I think this weekend devoting EVERY Borg defeater to fighting borgs can help, but still, i cant get past 250 crystals daily for Bertram until i reach level 10 buy HOPEFULLY tomorrow. What do i do? Is it doable?

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- Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 4:42 pm | Reply
  
  Like the post says, Kirk is meant to be the final prize, you still have time. The two new Bertrams will probably help as well.
  
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chadlamasa | April 22, 2015 at 2:43 pm | Reply

So I need one more cat food for Data. I haven’t cashed in the crystals for him yet and I’m just under the 8k I need for Picard. Should I wait on Data and get Picard first or the other way around?

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- Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 2:49 pm | Reply
  
  Picard helps with Bertram which will help with Crystals and Dark Matter. I would shoot for Picard first myself.
  
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  - chadlamasa | April 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm | Reply
    
    Thanks Bunny. Ignore my other question.
    
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Nathan | April 22, 2015 at 2:19 pm | Reply

I emailed tinyco about an exchange thing like they did for Halloween. I have hundreds of yellow squares I don’t need and now 50 orange phaser things I don’t need. She said sHe would pass it along so here’s to hoping they will lets us swap those out for dilithium this last update

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tknoodle | April 22, 2015 at 11:44 am | Reply

For those using away missions to add to your dilithium totals, they seem to have changed Beta Max so that it now costs 5 blue balls (but is still a 2 hour trip). So it may no longer be cost efficient to go there rather than Acapella (which is still 4 energy/4 hours). Of course the drop rate may be better if you have multiple characters going, but you’d have to work that out for yourselves.

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Matthew | April 22, 2015 at 10:46 am | Reply

I hope they will put a life support energy (or any other type of energy) to Dilithium crystal converter similar to Halloween since I have 109 life support energy and nothing to do with it.

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Eric (@korahn) | April 22, 2015 at 2:46 am | Reply

Currently deciding which to give up crystals for first – Stewie or Data. thinking Stewie as he can help with Bertram

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- Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 6:06 am | Reply
  
  Stewie.
  
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- Jorge Tavares Rodrigues | April 22, 2015 at 7:28 am | Reply
  
  I would do Stewie, than Pikard and at last Data..
  Bertram is where de Money/Cristals are…
  
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trish | April 21, 2015 at 6:22 pm | Reply

Bunny I so admire your extra-math-ual efforts here. But the sad piece of math is plain: even if you already have Vulcan Quagmire, it will take 31,000 DC to get Talosian Stewie, Data, Picard, and Kirk. Even the 16,000 to get all but Kirk seems an impossible climb, especially since characters can only do one earning task at a time, not go on an away team and earn materials, etc. TinyCo has usually been soooo much better in letting people who’ve been playing since the start of an event get the basic materials needed, even freemium. I’ve spent clams on more premium objects/characters than in any other event, still, not even a shot at getting 3 out of the 4 characters/skins left, let alone all four. Do you think TinyCo has some surprises for us this week?

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  
  Like my post stated… this was results with only this weeks current stats. TinyCo always adds more each Phase, so I have no doubt more options will come. My math shows even with basics, not using ALL Characters, not using ALL Rooms, not using ALL time allotted… 19000+ is doable. Add all the extras in there and it will go above and beyond that amount quickly.
  
  As far as the away missions, that is why I stated use one of those instead of a task. You can send them away for 4hrs… same time as task. For a payout… same as task. The Bonus comes in with the chance of Extra Materials. You are already spending the time, getting the payout… so if you have extra Energy… why not give it a try to possibly snag 400-750 Extra Dilithium? Or Synthesizer Ore needed for Kirk. 😉
  
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  - Jorge Tavares Rodrigues | April 22, 2015 at 7:54 am | Reply
    
    Hi Bunny,
    Reggarding the Away Missions, and looking at the comments on other posts, it seems that must of us are spending away all the Transporter Energy Balls for a chance on the most needed Cristals.
    Actualy the need for cristals was the major change in the game on this week upgrade, even for premium addicted players, for who the premium buildings that generate event currency are/were usualy a bad deal…
    My point is, with an upgrade scheduled for this Thursday, be careful not to spend all your transporter energy balls, save some of them (I’m aiming for 50) for the new Phase cause you will never know if they will be needed for a New Planet and/or a new Character or Skin…After Thursday, If nothing new comes a long for Away Missions spend it away, until then I think caution is required…
    Cheers.
    
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    - Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 8:23 am | Reply
      
      It is more a last resort. As in if you get close to the end and start needing them. That is why I did not focus too terribly on them. More what you can get from the basics. 😉
      
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aer540986 | April 21, 2015 at 5:57 pm | Reply

What task does George contribute? I’ve been in Florida for a family funeral for the past 4 days, so I’m sssooo behind. 😦 sad faces all around!!

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- savorycook | April 23, 2015 at 6:05 am | Reply
  
  George drops condoms. It won’t show, if you already have them all.
  
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Dolemen | April 21, 2015 at 5:39 pm | Reply

Let’s see they fixed the drop rates for items to unlock characters and nerfed the DC…brilliant!

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Alan123 | April 21, 2015 at 5:22 pm | Reply

Bunny – Did you deduct the amount of Crystals that are needed to build the items? Some may never pay for themselves. The Romulan Ale Bar is the only item that didnt need crystals to build.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 5:25 pm | Reply
  
  Like I said… this is ONLY calculations on earning over the next 10 days. The Romulan Ale Bar was a couple Phases back and should already be in existance in most players games. Along with all the other items listed.
  
  If I factor in everything from day of launch… these numbers would be a LOT different. We have been collecting now for weeks.
  
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LoisFortes | April 21, 2015 at 4:59 pm | Reply

Just to share / compare … My daily crystal earning was 2500 today. I sent Peter and vulcan quagmire to beta max planet 3 times and got lucky in that they paid out 500 crystals twice. Also beat Bertram on highest level once. Have Picard & Stewie skin unlocked and unlocked Data this afternoon. Have Worf & Spock (though they don’t really pay out much), no premium buildings/rooms, one of each on freemium buildings. Also sent Troi to a planet a few times knowing she wouldn’t drop anything but it still paid more crystals than her tasks. Don’t want to waste too much energy on transport yet, as there’s two other items in the replicator and they may be required yet.

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Davidbo33 | April 21, 2015 at 4:57 pm | Reply

Whenever you put up one of these math posts I picture you crunching the numbers on one of those old-timey adding machines, you know the kind, with the hand crank on the side. And wearing the requisite visor of course. 😄

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 5:03 pm | Reply
  
  How about on an Abucus? Lol
  
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  - wayd 'Erra' weaver | April 22, 2015 at 1:52 pm | Reply
    
    How about an abattoir for whoever changed the louis drop rate? Haha
    
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davidmc | April 21, 2015 at 4:41 pm | Reply

I can see a dilithium earning quest for Patrick Stewart but nothing is showing for George Takei .. Do you need a particular quest completing to unlock this?

Just spent the 8000 on Patrick Stewart now only need 15,000 for kirk by the end of the event

Keep up the good work

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 5:06 pm | Reply
  
  Make sure you keep the ones I am regarding in mind… Patrick Stewart aka JUST the actor released at Comic Con. Him and Takei ONLY have a Material drop now. Cat Food Stewart, Condoms Takei.
  
  Picard aka Locutus Costume is separate from both of those Comic Con Characters. 😉
  
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  - aer540986 | April 21, 2015 at 5:59 pm | Reply
    
    Oh. Question answered lol
    
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Catalina | April 21, 2015 at 4:14 pm | Reply

I owe you an apology, Bunny! (Perhaps in the form of some caramel sauce for those apples?) I foolishly doubted the attainability of your 1000 crystals per day estimate, yet I see I have 1800 right now, when I was down to like 200 at the time of my doubting post. Coupling that with how reliable TinyCo has previously been at making things achievable, I will attempt to stop panicking over what I’ll need to get Kirk. (No promises on not griping about Kirk not helping for a future event, though.) Since I started playing last June/July, there hasn’t been anything that was near-impossible and stayed that way (meaning the things that seemed impossible have been altered so more players could get them – for those newer readers).

Thanks for always being here to listen while we panic! And to remind us there’s no need to do so… 🙂

P.S. I’m so glad we still get tribbles! I don’t know why, but I love tapping the little boogers!

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 4:18 pm | Reply
  
  😉
  
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Liz | April 21, 2015 at 2:33 pm | Reply

Stewie and Picard disappeared from my replicator!!!

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  
  Star Trek Glitches & Clarifications (Part 3) UPDATED
  
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  - Richie | April 21, 2015 at 3:52 pm | Reply
    
    Do you ever get tired of responding to these? lol
    
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    - Lorne | April 22, 2015 at 5:12 am | Reply
      
      Right? Same question asked and answered 10 times on every post since this event started, I would be drinking as much as Bonnie has in the last 4 weeks lol.
      
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      - Bunny | April 22, 2015 at 6:11 am | Reply
        
        Now now…some people are new to the site and this may be the first post they stumbled on for help. Once they’re used to our site, then they’ll realize how to navigate it. I don’t mind helping. Even if it’s repeating same question answer over n over. 😉
        
        (Not to mention many long time readers do the same, jump to first post they see and ask instead of searching 😉 )
        
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- Vzs | April 21, 2015 at 3:41 pm | Reply
  
  Congrats, you are the 101st person, who writes this in a week. You won 101 crystals. Check Your inventory please! 🙂 🙂 🙂
  
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Raika | April 21, 2015 at 1:44 pm | Reply

Not sure if this has been said, but if you have spare warp, life support and Borg cubes, I would suggest building a load of romunlan ale bars. I’ve got about 10 at the moment. No upfront crystal cost and quite a sizeable payout.

(FYI, I’m not aiming for kirk so I appreciate not everyone will have spare cubes)

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- Vzs | April 21, 2015 at 3:38 pm | Reply
  
  I just wanted to write this as well, but you were faster 🙂
  I have 15 of this, each one pays out 20 crystals in every 16 hours (and I think 400 starfleet xp once you build one). One romulan ale bar costs 4 LSE, 2 green ore, and 1 blue transporter energy. So you dont need crystals to build them, and you can get from 15 romulan ale bar more than 3000 crystals until the end of this event. Keep building!
  
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- craigmufc | April 21, 2015 at 3:44 pm | Reply
  
  Great tip thanks, I’ve just bought 15 ale bars as I had 200+ life support, 100+ synthesiser ore’s and about 75 transporter energy
  
  So that’s an extra 300 crystals every 16hrs, nice little boost!
  
  And I still have enough synthesiser ore’s 4 kirk n i have picard…. so just need 2 keep defeating bertram n hope the final 2 sunscreens drop so I can get stewie (drops r definitely extra rare)
  
  Oh and sidenote I was only just at starfleet level 9 n worried about making it 2 level 10 by Thursday…… Needless 2 say I’m already there after creating 15 ale bars at 400xp a pop lol
  
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Derek | April 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm | Reply

Wow bunny did you sleep at all last night?!! That’s a lot of math.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 2:29 pm | Reply
  
  What is sleep?
  
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RT | April 21, 2015 at 12:34 pm | Reply

Thanks Bunny, think this should give some freemium players an incentive to keep going. Personally I’m feeling relaxed and confident. I have clams sitting but to date only unlocked Kronos and bought Spock. Apart from those no other premium buys and I’m well on target to complete everything. But I agree Bunny this has taken work and dedication, but to date I have enjoyed the event immensely despite not being a Trekkie. I hope we see more events like this, the massochist in me is enjoying it, perhaps a little too much. Oops. And as ever Bunny & Alissa have added that little icing on the cake with their blog posts, although I’ve heard a rumour Alissa is hiding out with Sideshow Bob in Sprimgfield, beam her back up Bunny.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 2:34 pm | Reply
  
  Lol. It is fine, like we tell our readers… not everything is for everyone… if it is not for you… take a step back. No harm. 😉
  
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almiller70 | April 21, 2015 at 12:17 pm | Reply

Hi Bunny! Quick question. I’ve been concentrating on unlocking characters and fighting Bertram. Only need a few more things to get Data and still need a dump truck load of dark energy. Haven’t done much with the questlines yet. I usually try to do both so I’m trying something new. Am I killing myself by doing it this way? Thanks a bunch!

Hope you guys and everybody else reading this site are having a great day! 😀

Take care,
Aaron

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 2:39 pm | Reply
  
  The only thing so far questlines hold you up on is unlocking some items along the way. Like Borg, Red Shirts, areas of ship, etc. This Warp Core, the Bertram Battles are a part of the questline along with others. Do what you can when you can. Try to at least squeeze the main questline in there. That way you are at least progressing there in case it is needed with the next Phase.
  
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JackalHyde | April 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm | Reply

Excellent article and gives me some piece of mind, I spent 500 on another Borg cube to help with the cat food and now today I am almost where I can get stewie from the replicator.

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Confused in Canada | April 21, 2015 at 11:53 am | Reply

So they “fixed” the drop for Lois’ one-hour task. Could they fix her four-hour task (holodeck romance) as well which now pays out exactly the same as the one-hour task? Most four-hour tasks pay 15 currency yet this one pays out five. Seems like they always fix the ones that are of benefit to the players yet never fix the ones that have a lesser yield than what they have established as the norm for the game. Ten days to go in the game; did they really need to make the change?? I thought it was a nice gesture on their part and forced strategy by the players. Those quirks where you have to make a decision with a character’s tasks as to what benefits YOU the most is what makes this game the most fun. No need to defend TinyCo’s position. We all understand its motivation in decision making.

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jeffs666 | April 21, 2015 at 11:35 am | Reply

I thought it was just me, when I went to quahog and hit Starfleet Lois’s check mark and hit it I got 5 dillithium, then checked her task and noticed the drop in DC for her, so I immediately came here and saw all the scatch marks on the post itself, with no explanatIon. What happened? Not being negative, but why did they do that, i was starting to se my dillithium accumulate a little better. BOOOOOOOOOO……..HISSSSSSSS 😦 to tiny co. Anyways thought I was gonna get to picards skin quicker, but seeing I have all the stuff for stewies skin and 5100 DC, I’ll get stewie first and just beat up on bertram till they lower the rate on him. Thanks B&A, well Im going back to the enterprise for stewies skin, happy gaming.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 3:04 pm | Reply
  
  Look at all the other 1 hr tasks. It was incorrect payout to begin with. It was bound to be patched sooner or later. The fact they let us go this long is pretty cool.
  
  You can’t ask one glitch to be repaired but not others. A glitch is still a glitch. Some just may take a lil more time and energy behind the scenes to make the repair, so some are not instant. But they are repaired.
  
  Happy lil glitch while it lasted. 😉
  
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Sugarbush | April 21, 2015 at 11:19 am | Reply

This is all very helpful for the math for certain.So first off thank you.

However what you are not taking into account on your calculations is that it takes crystals to make crystals. Building crystal payout (and rooms for that matter) is pathetic. Let’s say a room pays out 2 crystals every 2 hours. In a 40 day event if you stayed up all 24 hours every day to collect (or set your alarm) you’d get 12 chances a day or 480 chances total in a 40 day event. That’s 960 crystals. Except let’s say it’s Riker’s quarters. (which is really 1 crystal every 2 hours so actually an event long payout of 480 crystals maximum), but it costs 700 crystals to create. This doesn’t even take into account that the rooms themselves aren’t available day one of the event so it’s even less payout during the rooms effective duration.

Same with characters. I still need to unlock quagmire, data, piccard, and the alien stewie costume all of which require a ton of crystals that they can never hope to offset this late in the game. So they are not contributing to production right now. Even ones I just unlocked like Dr. Crusher 2 days ago will likely never pay for herself. Perhaps some characters that have tasks to high payout planets, but you need Chris to battle bertram and you need peter to advance most questlines to open up the content anyways. The payouts are also listed as low. TC need to raise it to a garaunteed payout of at least something (I.e. you get a green cube, 450 DC or 750 DC). Not just a measly 15 DC for trying and now out 2 transporter energy.

Additionally with only 2 people working on Bertram at this moment (geordi and chris) stunning the 3rd stage of him is a long shot so I let it reset, losing 24 hours of stunning time, but send those characters on to help get orange phasers crystals so i can unlock quagmire and collect DC.

Finally add in the things we needed to buy just to get close to the exp needed for warp core upgrades and the multiples of them (casket ejector) and how many crystals those cost and we’re behind again. I’m one bar above level 9 right now. (Pretty sure that star shaped space ship didn’t give me exp as my bar didn’t light up or move).

I know TC makes adjustments, but with such a short time left now in the event the adjustments will only help those that are close who are the people who likely took advantage of the room swap exploit and romulan bar exp glitch while the rest of us (me who checks the game every 2 hours) are hopelessly behind with little hope to even get close to getting data and stewie let alone Kirk or Piccard. Or the new content for Thursday.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 3:02 pm | Reply
  
  I understand what you are saying, but look at my calculations. It is ONLY for 10 days… and that is going forward. It does not at all take into account EVERYTHING you should have earned, won, and unlocked up to this point. So yes… if someone was JUST starting out today, I can see concerns. But for an event weeks in, many of these should already be bought and paid for.
  
  I am showing that earning Dilithium can be done by simple play. I intentionally even calculated LESS than time spent. LESS than Characters that could participate. I also did not even include a bunch of other side options and calculations, like all the questline completion totals… those add up fast. This is very stripped down and very basic calculations.
  
  So I get what you are saying, but when you look at my overall post … I took a LOT into calculation when putting it together… INCLUDING people that don’t have it all. 😉
  
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thetinmande | April 21, 2015 at 11:04 am | Reply

It would be great if they could increase the drop rate for sunscreen… 12 attempts at 8 hours a piece with zero drops is not rare. It’s epic. Tasks that drop rare items like that should be four hours or less. I swear I don’t know what TC is thinking sometimes with their algorithms…

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beckydamico | April 21, 2015 at 10:48 am | Reply

If I have extra crystals for shooting the asteroids, should I hold onto it to see if it’ll be useful in the next phase? Or use it to try to get crystals?

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 2:53 pm | Reply
  
  I would hold onto them just to see what the next stage brings you
  
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Mike | April 21, 2015 at 10:43 am | Reply

Thanks for the detailed posts about Dilithium.

I have a suggestion though:
In the rooms and buildings section include how much they cost in the first place as many of these will not end up gaining you any crystals by the end of the event.
The Vulcan High command for instance costs 1000 to build and pays out 10 per 8 hours. So even at 100% collection efficiency it will take 800 hours to break even which is 33 days! So pretty much anyone who has bought this (probably most people as it is required for a quest line) will never see a profit from the building.

The other thing to bear in mind is that there is still a bunch of stuff to come in the last week which will probably require crystals too so unless there is going to be a way of generating crystals in large amounts most people are going to struggle to get all of the stuff from this week let alone next week.

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- Bunny | April 21, 2015 at 2:26 pm | Reply
  
  The rooms are all listed in another location on the site already in detail. In order to keep this post from being any longer… I kept details to a minimum. Didn’t want it to turn into a book. 😉
  
  Most of these items players should already have.
  
  No to mention the overall payout was determined from yesterday forward… so other Dilithium collected over the last weeks prior to this should have already covered the majority of costs and purchases.
  
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